Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:50:04 -0700
Reply-To: BenT Syncro <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
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From: BenT Syncro <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Anyone want a $1200 AAZ donor Jetta in San Francisco?
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Note on original posting: bottom end rebuilt with new crank, etc. Comes with receipts. This is not a junkyard motor but presently running in a car.
You might get these confused with motors sold by a certain SoCal vendor. Supposedly low miles and good condition. 7 out of 17 were DOA. One particularly pretty one I saved for myself had suck up a valve. Supposedly has 48K miles and pre-tested. Ha! Nothing like being able to drive and compression test your donor.
BenT
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On Jun 16, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> wrote:
> re
> Coolant weeping a little so needs headgasket
> redone. A local shop will remove engine and replace gasket for me for
> $700."
>
> Be careful on this.
> I just went through the *exact* thing with a very rusty 'good used' AAZ
> engine.
> The outside of the engine was horribly rusty ..
> and by the insides of the cooling system the coolant had never ever been
> changed in the engine's life.
>
> The outside rust manifested itself in the worst way ..
> with a 'rocking' t-belt sprocket on the crank nose. That was fixed by
> sending the crank out to have the nose of it updated to TDI style. Which
> meant honing the bore, new rings, new rod and main bearings, new stretch
> fasteners, etc.
> But that almost wasn't the worse part ....
> .
> Those headgaskets ..the all steel ones....darn rugged material. They don't
> really deteriorate much that I've seen ...but ...
> the top of the block .......severe pitting. Like the real repair is to
> take the bare block and have it decked ..
> and then you start thinking about what thickness head gasket you'll need
> next ..
> and if there is a right head gasket for that particular block and pistons.
> If it already required a 3 notch head gasket and your're going to take some
> off the top of the block ..
> machine shop said the minimum they can do is about 4 thousandths ..
> That means you could get into a situation where you can't really get the
> right head gasket.
>
> so it can turn into far more than a simple head gasket job.
>
> So ..........some 'rust on the side of the block' ......on a running 'good
> used' engine ..
> turned into an entire near full rebuild. We kept the stock pistons and
> wrist pins , and didn't rebuild the rods ...but everything else had to be
> done..fix crank nose , polish crank journals, vavle and head work etc.
> It's runnin' great now !
> but ...been a real saga on what was sold as a 'good running AAZ engine'.
>
> just sayin' be careful is all.
> I'm quite sure that crank t-belt sprocket would have blown off there or
> failed if left as it was ..which blows the engine of course.
>
> This is the first time I've had a problem with a 1.9 NA or AAZ crank
> sprocket , but I hear it's a weak spot ..
> and they are commonly upgraded to TDI specs there..
> and ....this totally 'gets me' ...
> I was completely shocked to see that the t-belt sprocket is just bolted to
> that flat face of the nose of the crankshaft.......the sprocket does not
> reach down over the end of the crank at all ( well, about 1/4 inch , which
> is nothing ) . It's insane they made such a weak design on a totally
> critical part.
>
> that one spot has been upgraded or change throughout the history VW
> diesels.....there are two styles in 1.6 that I know of , then the 1Y, AAZ
> style,
> after the AAZ there is TDI style ..
> on the next engine , the ALH ...the stretch bolt there gets upgraded to
> ...don't know if the bolt is different ..but the tightening specs are 'more'
> . Sure wish they wouldn't done it bomber in the first place !
>
> what vw diesel fun !
> scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Miller" <mwmiller6@ATT.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 2:15 PM
> Subject: Anyone want a $1200 AAZ donor Jetta in San Francisco?
>
>
>> As usual, I got carried away buying cars. Couldn't resist a deal. Now
>> reality is setting in. I have no Vanagon which needs an AAZ. I already
>> have spare engines. And this Jetta is only good for parts.
>>
>> It's Canadian with Canadian plates. Came from Ontario and very rusty.
>> Corrosion on the engine too. But hey it runs and has PS & AC. It's a 5-
>> speed car but clutch is no good. Seller is delivering it to me in San
>> Francisco by 'double clutching' all the way.
>>
>> Bottom end was rebuilt because of a broken crank not too long ago.
>> Receipts as proof. Coolant weeping a little so needs headgasket
>> redone. A local shop will remove engine and replace gasket for me for
>> $700. I can pass on that price to buyer also. Disposal of remains is
>> another $100. You can defray some of the cost by selling off things
>> like the 5-speed Jetta trans.
>>
>> Anyone? Anyone? Here's your chance to 'dieselize' your Vanagon the
>> simple way. For those who aren't familiar with the AAZ, it's a 1.9
>> turbodiesel. Pre-chamber type and not TDI. Got one in my Syncro.
>> Mechanical pump. "One wire" engine.
>>
>> Pmail inquiries.
>>
>>
>>
>> BenT
>>
>> sent from my electronic leash