Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:28:51 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: I4 Happenings in turbovans land
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hi Mark,
nice to see your comments.
I concur.
lol.
you won't find me saying much good about them.
Fortunately my exposure to them has been limited.
I for sure would never build an inline four, gas or diesel ..
with anything other than my own version of the stock DV exhaust system.
Have had nothing but full success with those setups.
one of my favorite sayings..
regarding this 91 GL with blown Tiico engine ..
'Glad I don't own it ! "
re what version the 1.8 I just got, it's a 92 ..
and Digifant.
re Don's comments ..
"slip-shod assembly procedures..mainly bolting it up without having
>> things properly straight. "
I have put many adapter systems together.
We'll see how this one looks if I take it apart ...
but generally ..
of the adapter systems I've assembled, name subaru ..
there isn't a way to get 'not straight.' .
I did have one syncro vanagon come by with a Tiico ..
they were basically satisfied.
I had a phone conversation with a guy one time about inline four gas engines
and diesel engine mounts and vibration ..
he had worked for a well known supplier of these types of engines ...
and now he was having vibration issues with one of their engines ..
I said 'I hear a lot of the engines they sell are seconds.'
His reply.................I'm not even going to tell you what I know about
that at that company ! "
so perhaps many of them are not first grade engines in the first place.
If there is one thing I like...
it's longevity and durability ..
and reliability of course.
scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "mark drillock" <mdrillock@COX.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: I4 Happenings in turbovans land
>I know of dozens of people who went with the TIICO and many had grief,
> whether they installed it themselves or paid a conversion shop to do it.
> There were all kinds of problems, from various broken parts due to
> vibrations, electrical faults, engine fires, broken pistons, cracked
> heads, it goes on and on.......We have been discussing the TIICO
> vibration issues on this list and others for 10 years, namely since day
> one of the kits. Similar vibration issues arise on all types of inline 4
> VW conversions that I am aware of. Not everyone seems to have the issues
> or at least they don't all notice them or don't want to talk about them.
> The closer the pulley and exhaust systems are to stock VW setups the
> happier people tend to be.
>
> Mark
>
>
> Don Hanson wrote:
>>.........
>> You missed what I said...According to the Tiico list, the boys at FAS
>> have
>> supposedly traced the sometimes encountered Tiico vibration issues to
>> ....slip-shod assembly procedures..mainly bolting it up without having
>> things properly straight. And the other part about 'urban myth'...that
>> "Oh
>> yes, those engines vibrate.....I hear" but like Subie transplants with a
>> bazillion electrical glitches....you only hear about the ones that do
>> have
>> issues (caused by the poor assembly...the Tiico list folks say) There
>> are
>> plenty of others who say nothing because nothing bad happens..Like
>> Miguel,
>> et al.
>>
>>
