Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:44:21 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: I4 Happenings in turbovans land
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I may know more about that if I take this thing apart ..
which I probably will be doing.
I won't say much, but I had some direct phone dealings with the owner of
Tiico about their planned 1.9 TD kits..
it wasn't pleasant and rewarding, let's say.
I went nutty looking into why SVX subaru engines with an adatper and rear
mount system were breaking studs.
VW doesn't even use 'real' locating dowels in their waterboxer bell
housings. Just a lip.
it's a joke.
the 10mm bolts and studs ..they're in 12mm diamter holes through the wbxr
bell housing ..and one of the holes is 14mm ...
so no real 'locating there.'
joining the two on the ground shouldn't make any difference.
if it's a decent locating system ..
doesn't matter where you mate them .
'lots' of conversion parts are underbuilt or poorly designed in my
experience.
to much of 'this might be good enough' and not enough of 'make it as good as
we can possibly figure out.'
and it doesn't have to cost more to do it right.
the forces acting an SVX engine adapter with a rear mount system ..
about 5 seperate forces..
rotational, the sheer weight being supported at the ends with the mounts at
the far ends...
the up-down 'thrust' when you let the clutch out , etc.
There's a good reason most manufacturers make that junction so there is
no question about anything going anywhere.
Subaru and volvo are good examples. Nice fat pins or dowels, etc. Numerous
good size bolts, and so on.
----- Original Message -----
From: "mark drillock" <mdrillock@COX.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: I4 Happenings in turbovans land
>I agree, the inline VW engine has large dowel pins that precisely locate
> it with respect to the adapter plate or stock DV bell housing,
> whichever. Any notion that putting the engine and tranny together and
> then installing as a unit makes the 2 parts somehow more aligned is
> highly questionable to me. Maybe the interface between the TIICO plate
> and the tranny is more open to position variances that account for such
> an assertion.
>
> Mark
>
> Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>> hi Mark,
>> nice to see your comments.
>> I concur.
>>......................
>> re Don's comments ..
>> "slip-shod assembly procedures..mainly bolting it up without having
>>>> things properly straight. "
>>
>> I have put many adapter systems together.
>> We'll see how this one looks if I take it apart ...
>> but generally ..
>> of the adapter systems I've assembled, name subaru ..
>> there isn't a way to get 'not straight.' .
>>
>>
