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Date:         Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:42:05 -0400
Reply-To:     Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Fuel Tank Re-Seal Kit
Comments: To: Ken Wilford <kenwilfy@comcast.net>
In-Reply-To:  <4E03367C.1010306@comcast.net>
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My bad - I was looking at the wrong kit. That's what I get for watching TV, surfing and talking to the wife at the same time!

http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_493_293/fuel_tank_reseal_kit_a.html

More exspensive again....Grrr.

I do still feel $80 is a bit much for 4 rubber seals, clamps and hose. I have good access locally to proper quality (Conti) metric fuel hose and fuel clamps. I'll do agree people need to support the "local" effert to keep these vans going. I'll just be ordering the seals on their own.

Jason

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Ken Wilford <kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote: > Jason, you are comparing apples and oranges. The Van-Cafe kit you are > > talking about is the engine bay fuel line kit which we sell for $60. > The higher priced kits are for the gas tank.  Either way this is a job > you want to do right and do once.  I guess you could just get some > gaskets and take your tank down and then go to the store and try to find > some hose and some clamps, drive back home, find out you need some other > stuff, drive to the store, rinse and repeat until you get this all back > together.  Put it up in place only to find out that it still leaks > because the crappy clamps you can buy at your local flaps for cheap > won't clamp worth a darn. > > Or you could just buy a kit from a vendor so you are supporting the > community, and get everything you are going to need to do this right the > first time.  I do this job for customers all the time.  When I put > together my kits, it is not just to make money but to help folks be able > to do this job right the first time and feel confident in what they have > done. > I have seen so many crappy roll-your-own jobs especially on the high > pressure fuel line replacements.  People want to do something good which > is replace their fuel lines.  Then they cheap out and buy low pressure > braided line at the local flaps.  The old hose that you just replaced > was better!  Now you just made a fire bomb which could go off at any time. > > Please don't be penny wise, and pound foolish.  The engine compartment > kits are not cheap because we are using high pressure German fuel line > and it keeps increasing in price every six months and has for years.  I > haven't increased the price of my kits in the last ten years even though > the cost of the materials has almost doubled in that time period.  The > vendors for this list are here because they love Vanagons and want to > help you as an owner keep your van on the road.  We are not really in it > for the money or we would have walked away a long time ago. > > Just my opinion. > > -- > Thanks, > Ken Wilford > John 3:16 > www.vanagain.com > Phone: 856-327-4936 > Fax: 856-327-2242 > > > > On 6/22/2011 9:20 PM, Jason wrote: >> >>  Personally I feel the "kits" are overpriced @ $80-90.   Just sell me >>  the grommets for a decent price and I'll supply my own line and fuel >>  injection clamps.   The only one that I think is close to being fairly >>  priced is the Van-cafe one.  It at least comes with all the fuel line >>  to the firewall and the fuel injector seals for $65. >> >>  http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/page_499 >> >>  To compare: >> >>  http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=TANKKIT1 >> >>  http://gowesty.com/ec_view_details.php?id=3618&category_id=&category_parent_id= >> >>  As an added bonus us Canadians get screwed at the border again!  Grrrr. >> >>  Jason >> >> >> >> >>  On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:34 PM, neil n<musomuso@gmail.com>   wrote: >>> >>>  On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Jeff Lincoln<magikvw@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>  Chances are you won't need to replace everytinhg - some of the gromits >>>> and >>>>  such will probably be good. Having said that though - you will still >>>> want to >>>>  get the entire kit and do it all at once. >>> >>>  I agree! >>> >>>  IF the kit shows cable straps for EVAP hoses, do not buy that kit. I >>>  swear I saw a kit offering this at one point..... >>> >>>  The cable straps are a poor idea IMO. Tank completely full, there's a >>>  possibility the hose will leak due to poor seal via cable strap. >>> >>>  Neil. >>> >>> >>>  -- >>>  Neil n >>> >>>  65 kb image Myford Ready For Assembly  http://tinyurl.com/64sx4rp >>> >>>  '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco"  http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ >>> >>>  Vanagon VAG Gas I4/VR Swap Google Group: >>> >>> >>>  http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines >>> >


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