Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 11:51:48 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Superchargers?
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hi ...
'purposefully oversimplified.' .. ..I see.
people might read that and think it's just a couple of steps.
I had a customer ask me about converting his 1.9 NA block ( now with AAZ
turbo rods and pistons ) to turbo ..
when I listed off the parts ( which on a diesel would include injection
pump, injection lines, and injectors, besides all the air and oil feed and
return hardware to support a turbo, and the injection part wouldn't apply to
a gas engine of course ) ...
perhaps 12 to 15 different parts, some of them major ..
and a whole other exhaust system and air filter/breather system ..
He had thought it was just a couple of parts, mainly the turbo.
no ..it's a whole re-engineering of lots and lots on the outside of the
engine.
in addition ..the insides of the engine should be modified as well, to
handle the increased stresses and pressure., for turbo or supercharger.
by the way ..
speaking of turbo rabbits/pick-ups ..
I very much need a harmonic balancer front crankshaft pulley ..
for exactly this ..
or this is the exact factory application -
1.6 TD jetta/rabbit .
not quantum.
not AAZ or 1.9
not serpentine belt.
not anything ....but 84 to 86 or so, 1.6 TD jetta/ rabbit harmonic balancer
crankshaft pulley with v-groove for a 9mm belt.
I've seen and used many of them.
infinitely superior to the sheet metal pulley many 1.6NA's in rabbits, and
diesel vanagons have.
going onto to a very robust 1.9 NA in a diesel vanagon ..
should be pretty good - aaz rods and pistons, full rebuild including new
pistons, it has piston oil squirters already of course......and engine
balancing, .......... Giles Injection Pump and new complete Kolbenscmidt
cylinder head, and more.
need it for that engine.
should be a pretty good DV Westy engine for a while.
I don't think oversimplifying something like a turbo installation really
serves anyone.
and that's the idea, right ?
Scott
www.turbovans.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "pat " <psdooley@verizon.net>
To: "'Scott Daniel - Turbovans'" <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>;
<vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 5:41 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Superchargers?
> Yep, I purposely oversimplified for the sake of the list.
>
> I have built a couple turbo v-dubs, including my own 81 rabbit pickup,
> been
> on the road for over 10 years now with forced induction.
> Anyone interested pmail for details.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans [mailto:scottdaniel@turbovans.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 3:27 AM
> To: pat; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Re: Superchargers?
>
> very nice.
> though you are oversimplifying what it takes to retro fit a turbo where
> there wasn't one.
> it's about 10 parts , counting every little thing, and that's not counting
> an IC either.
>
> more like a dozen things, without the IC.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "pat" <psdooley@VERIZON.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Superchargers?
>
>
>> The VW G60 charger is a known weak link in the Corrado.
>> A lot of Corrado G60 owners upgrade to turbo.
>>
>> 4 grand is a lot for forced induction when you can get a Garrett T3 for
>> $100
>> and rebuild it for another hundred. Sure, you need an exhaust manifold
>> and
>> exhaust plumbing- throw in another $200.
>> Either way you need an intercooler, intake piping and management.
>>
>> A supercharger (like a Lysholm, not a G60), is good for around town and
>> probably the best choice for a Vanagon.
>> For your Jetta, the turbo is the best kick in the pants.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Don Hanson
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:14 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Superchargers?
>>
>> Anyone have any experience with superchargers on a VW? Turbochargers
>> get
>> all the ink..everyone talks about Turbo Subies and Bostig transplants.
>>
>> In many factory vehicles, superchargers are original equipment. VW
>> offers
>> some factory supercharged models. Toyota started doing it way back in
>> the
>> '90s...
>>
>> I have seen kits offered for inline VW motors...For example: Bahn
>> Brenner
>> (a VW Tuner) offers some stand-alone kits and also upgrades for the G-60
>> factory supercharged VW. Their kits are said to up the 1.8 liter
>> supercharged motors output from 180hp to near 200
>>
>> For $4k you can get your N.A. Jetta motor making ~180hp and ~200lb/ft of
>> torque... with a supercharger kit said to bolt on in an afternoon.
>>
>> I am just curious here if anyone has gone that route to more power for a
>> Vanagon. It's my understanding that superchargers work without any
>> "lag"
>> and they don't involve complex exhaust routing.
>>
>> Don Hanson
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