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Date:         Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:13:45 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Installing Fuel Filter on an 88 Cant get filter out!
Comments: To: Robert Stewart <robertmstewart@MAC.COM>
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Hey Robert, glad you persevered , and got good results ! Scott www.turbovans.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Stewart" <robertmstewart@MAC.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 7:51 PM Subject: Re: Installing Fuel Filter on an 88 Cant get filter out!

> Hey Scott, > > Thanks for help. Over the weekend I decided to tackle this stubborn rusted > fuel filter strap once more. > > I drilled out the head of the bolt as much as possible. It was going to > take a while and out of frustration I wedged my screwdriver between the > mounting clips of the fuel filter near the frame, angled it popping the > lower mount off the frame! Once it came off it was easy to remove the > bolt. It sheared in half when I turned it! Totally rusted. > > I replaced the bolt with a shiny new one and replaced the small fuel line > just before the connector to the fuel filter. The previous mechanics never > use the right clamps and had those serrated clamps instead of real fuel > injector type clamps. I figured I was there, why take a chance. I replaced > the fuel line clamps with real Fuel Injector clamps. I also covered the > fuel lines there with a clear plastic rubber hose that I split in the > center to allow the fuel line hose to expand & contract and to cover the > fuel line to add some protection from rocks and other debris from hitting > the exposed fuel hoses. > > Looks great. Once the filter was replaced the van ran so much better, it > idled right again. Thanks for the advice and push to fix the issue. > > Thanks again to you and the entire Vanagon.com list serv. > > Robert > NY > > On Jul 6, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote: > >> hi.. >> just grind the head of that screw somehow.. >> drill, grinder, die gringer whatever. >> >> or ..bypass the whole damn thing for now. >> think outside the box. >> >> really...you're bogging down on something you can just leave alone. >> get another filter, some hose, some barbed fittings.. >> bypass the muther for now, if that's what it takes. >> >> you must empty the old fuel filter out on a clean dish or something, to >> see what is in it, and blow through the old FF to see how restricted is >> is/was. If you can anyway. >> >> scott >> www.turbovans.com >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Robert Stewart >> To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans >> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:13 AM >> Subject: Re: Installing Fuel Filter on an 88 Cant get filter out! >> >> Hey Scott, >> >> Thanks for the reply. >> >> I did not see any nut there that I could get access to. The filter is >> locked in place and will not budge. I can't spin it, can't wiggle it, >> nothing! >> >> I did put a penetrating oil on several times, PB blaster I think. >> >> The bolt that faces the ground just turns but never seems to loosen. I >> was thinking of cutting the head off and drilling it out with drill bit >> to replace it with another bolt that seems a like a big job. >> >> Maybe I need something to spread the clamping area that is connected to >> the threaded bolt? ideas? >> >> I originally removed the fuel lines and very clean gas leaked out of it. >> But now all of sudden the van is not idling right, it's a bit low all of >> sudden and prone to stalls when I reverse. I considered upping the idle >> speed but that seems like a crappy fix. >> >> Open to your ideas. >> >> Robert >> NY >> >> On Jul 2, 2011, at 8:23 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote: >> >>> is there a nut on the other end of the screw ? >>> >>> haven't had my hands on one for a while.. >>> but there may be a nut spinning on the other end of the screw. >>> >>> there is no 'bolt' per se. >>> don't use a torch by the fuel filter if you can help it at all. >>> >>> does the filter spin loosely in the bracket ? >>> if so, take off a fuel hose and slide it out. >>> >>> has it been like 50 years since it was apart there ? >>> >>> 'most vans' are like that , very often anyway. >>> even if they have $30K in fancy GW parts and wheels on them. >>> >>> seriously ...the poor vanagons get very little actual caring care. >>> regardless of how much is spent on them. >>> >>> did you immediately start spraying with penetrating oil or wd-40. ??? >>> >>> there's a rule.. >>> if you start undoing any fasteners on the typical neglected vangon >>> without penetrating oil in hand and spraying first, you go to hell when >>> you die. >>> >>> and not just once.. >>> sometimes it's 3 times a day for a week before you start working on it. >>> >>> there's a very secret stuff you can put on threaded fasteners. >>> Not known about on Earth very much .. >>> particularly on vanagon fasteners .. >>> called 'anti-seize compound' . >>> >>> For a typical shop or person things just changing the part out is the >>> job. >>> believe me.. >>> just 'changing the part' is incidental to the process of *really* taking >>> care of and repairing theses fine babies thoroughly and properly. >>> >>> I have never seen a vanagon yet that did not need about 20 or 50 ( or >>> 200 ) small things either fixed right because they were done poorly or >>> wrong in the first place..... ..or just endless detail neglect, even if >>> they cost 40 grand and were loaded with fancy stuff, engine conversions >>> etc. >>> >>> Scott >>> www.turbovans.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Robert Stewart >>> To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans >>> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 10:33 AM >>> Subject: Re: Installing Fuel Filter on an 88 Cant get filter out! >>> >>> Hey Scott, >>> >>> How can I remove the bolt. It will not expand. The bolt turns but the >>> space is not expanding. Should I drill the hole out with a drill bit? >>> Heat it with a small butane torch? As of now it' stuck. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Robert >>> >>> On Jun 27, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote: >>> >>>> the fuel flows from the tank aft to the engine .. >>>> so arrows on FF point aft. >>>> >>>> it's a very clever mounting bracket I think. ( I don't think >>>> *everything* VW does is underbuilt or weak..they do some great things >>>> here and there ..this is one of them ) >>>> >>>> the tightening screw has two functions.. >>>> one it sqeazes down on the filter to hold it in the clamp.. >>>> and it sqeazes the two ends of the clamp into holes in the frame of >>>> the van . I highly approve of this FF mounting. >>>> it's perfect. >>>> >>>> filters are always ( or usually ) made to the larger end is 'out.' >>>> This type of FF anyway. >>>> use lots of wd-40 to make things move easier. >>>> before even starting the job .. >>>> I'd hose everything in the area down with WD-40. >>>> I'd say penetrating oil..but I don't like getting that on fuel lines. >>>> >>>> scott >>>> www.turbovans.com >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Robert Stewart >>>> To: Vanagon List Serv >>>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 10:46 AM >>>> Subject: Installing Fuel Filter on an 88 Cant get filter out! >>>> >>>> >>>> So I just started to notice a little hesitation when taking off and >>>> realized I have not changed the fuel filter in about 2 years so I >>>> wanted to change it today but can't figure out how to remove it from >>>> the metal circular bracket that it sits in. >>>> >>>> >>>> I have unscrewed the bolt at the bottom of the holder but now it just >>>> spins and is not loosening. How do I remove that piece? >>>> >>>> >>>> Also what direction do the arrows on Mahl filter go? From the front of >>>> the van to the back is shows a fuel line, then the pump, then the >>>> filter. >>>> >>>> >>>> Does the filter point the arrows toward the front of the van or the >>>> rear? >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks again! >>>> >>>> >>>> Rob >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bloomingburg NY >>>> 88 auto Wolfsburg, Silver >>>> 5,000 miles on rebuilt engine- automatic >>>> >>> >>> >> >>


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