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Date:         Fri, 8 Jul 2011 17:58:39 -0400
Reply-To:     Jay Brown <badkarma@TTLC.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jay Brown <badkarma@TTLC.NET>
Subject:      Re: Need Help with South African Light Kit.
Comments: To: robbykilborn@GMAIL.COM
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Hi Robby,

It sounds like you are trying to install one of the "HID conversion" kits into your SA Grill. These generic replacement HID's are generally of very poor quality and will not work well in a reflector/lens that is designed for a standard H4 bulb. This is due to the fact that they are a diffrenent length (as you have already seen) and do not have the same focal characteristics of a normal filament bulb.

Did you previously have the round headlights (H4 Type) installed in your van, or are you converting over from the stock rectangular lights?

The South African grill uses H4 bulbs and connectors for the main lens. If you are swapping over from the stock 9004 type connectors, you will need to replace them with H4 socket connector. They are available at most autoparts places for about $10.00.

The smaller inner lens holds an H3 bulb. All of the South African grills I have seen come with the bulbs and connectors for the inner bulbs, but they will need to be spliced into the high beam wires (the white wires) from the main outer lights. You can do this easily with butt connectors. I would advise you to use marine quality butt connectors with adhesive lined shrink wrap inside for best results.

There is a lot of information on the SA grill install (including some posts from me "thatvwbusguy" on this post from thesamba.com. Take a look and let me know if you have any other questions: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=211279&highlight=

The final part of the install should be to include a set of headlight relays to protect your headlight switch from overheating. I have been selling headlight relay kits for a few years and have plenty in stock if you need a set. Info is available on my website here: https://sites.google.com/site/vanagonheadlightrelays/

Good Luck, Jay Brown '85 Zetec Westfalia '87 Zetec Wolfsburg

Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 14:39:14 -0400 From: robby kilborn <robbykilborn@GMAIL.COM> Subject: Need Help with South African Light Kit. So after the South Dakota tornado on June 30 had its way with my van, I had to replace my grille... I opted for the South African, seeing as I already had the round headlights and pockets. What I've found out is that the lights for the high intensity kit, do not fit in the current head light casing. First, there is a metal piece that appears to cover the bulb (which I can/did remove) in order to accommodate the length of the bulb. Once I removed that bit, I noticed that the circumference of the bulb is smaller than the opening. >.< (that's what she said)... Anyway, I have the grill, the bulbs... but no light. I already swapped the 8" plugs for the new bulbs... As for the smaller, inner lights, the attachment/plug from the '87 model, is two parallel plugs, not the 'T' config of the 80/100W. How have those of you with the SA Kit, managed to fen-angle it to work? 1987 Vanagon Syncro Camper. Robby


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