Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:23:00 -0400
Reply-To: Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jason <uberhare@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Ohh those VW gods...billowing blue smoke.
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Our engine snapped a stud on torquing, The heads were off being replaced,
and they did not look corroded. Fun. Great fun....
Jason
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Bruce Todd <beeceetee@gmail.com> wrote:
> |it's not that likely that all 15 of the other studs are fine,
> |wonderful, and not corroded..
> |some of them have to be having some of the same syndrome one
> |would think.
>
> Yes Karl & Scott that dark cloud has crossed my mind. I hear corroded
> studs
> are most likely to snap on tightening than when under power...but my
> situation sort of blows that theory out the window. Personally, I've been
> pretty good at not adding water to the coolant - I can't speak for the
> other
> POs though.
>
> anyway -things that make you go hmmmm....
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@q.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah. My first engine did the same thing; my adding water and my wife
> > adding water kinda diluted the coolant till it was corrosive. Mechanic
> > pulled it aprart and all the studs were toast. New engine time.
> >
> > Karl Wolz
> >
> >
> >
> > |-----Original Message-----
> > |From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]
> > |On Behalf Of Scott Daniel - Turbovans
> > |Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:02 PM
> > |To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > |Subject: Re: Ohh those VW gods...billowing blue smoke.
> > |
> > |and.....
> > |of course,
> > |it's not that likely that all 15 of the other studs are fine,
> > |wonderful, and not corroded..
> > |some of them have to be having some of the same syndrome one
> > |would think.
> > |
> > | might even want to start with a whole other case that's not
> > |so corroded in the cylinder head stud department..
> > |if one is going to repair the current engine, that is.
> > |
> > |I have about 6 or 7 'core' or need freshening-up, 1.9 wbxr engines.
> > |
> > |Scott
> > |www.turbovans.com
> > |----- Original Message -----
> > |From: "Bruce Todd" <beeceetee@GMAIL.COM>
> > |To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > |Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 1:03 PM
> > |Subject: Re: Ohh those VW gods...billowing blue smoke.
> > |
> > |
> > |> Jack got it right...a corroded head stud packed it in - the stud
> > |> between #
> > |> 3
> > |> & 4 cylinder failed and which needs to be drilled out. If I
> > |had money
> > |> for a prize I'd send it to Jack but I have to use my cash for the
> > |> repair...perhaps Jim can donate another haiku.
> > |>
> > |> BT
> > |>
> > |> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Jack Botts
> > |> <johnnyjewel43@hotmail.com>wrote:
> > |>
> > |>> I have had 2 things happen to my 2.1 that cause your symptoms,
> > |>> neither of which would I wish on any Vanagon owner. 1.) a head/case
> > |>> bolt gave up -- corroded right thru., and 2.) a crack developed
> > |>> between the valve seats on the head, pumping coolant into the
> > |>> combustion chamber. Hope your problem is less severe than either.
> > |>>
> > |>> Jack
> > |>> '86 (Go)Westy Weekender
> > |>> '05 Jetta diesel wagon
> > |>>
> > |>>
> > |>> > Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:43:03 -0700
> > |>> > From: beeceetee@GMAIL.COM
> > |>> > Subject: Ohh those VW gods...billowing blue smoke.
> > |>> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > |>> >
> > |>> > So I just finished climbing a short hill and felt the
> > |power of the
> > |>> > 2.1 in
> > |>> my
> > |>> > Westy decline slightly...a heard a honk and then saw people from
> > |>> > the sidewalk staring. I glanced out the rear view mirror
> > |and there
> > |>> > was a very large cloud of bluish smoke behind me. I
> > |quickly pulled
> > |>> > over and turned
> > |>> the
> > |>> > ignition off. Nothing leaking - oil or water but the
> > |coolant refill
> > |>> > tank was bone dry - previously at the max level a few
> > |days ago when
> > |>> > I checked.
> > |>> > The smoke smelled of burning oil.
> > |>> >
> > |>> > I quickly restarted the motor just top see if I could see or hear
> > |>> anything.
> > |>> > Motor sounded fine but was blowing blue. The temp guage was fine
> > |>> throughout
> > |>> > this ordeal. Anyway just about to get her flat bedded to
> > |a shop for
> > |>> repair.
> > |>> >
> > |>> > Theories, thoughts, words of wisdom?
> > |>> >
> > |>> >
> > |>> >
> > |>> > BT
> > |>> >
> > |>> > Freshly painted 86 Syncro Westy.
> > |>>
> > |>>
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