Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 12:02:08 -0700
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Watching Oil Temp (long, as usual)
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my my we are having fun now.
yes....there's more weight on the front axle of a 2WD vanagon than on the
rear.
You wouldn't think so with a rear engine..
but weight distribution is roughly 54 % front, 46 % rear ..
Thus they are slightly traction-challenged in the slippery stuff.
big heavy things in the rear ? ...rear brake drums ?
We could talk about unsprung wieght, but let's not.
and tires for vanagons.
that's worse than talking about religion.
but we've been over that ad nauseum recently.
Oil temp would not normally be sensed at the oil cooler , for gague purposes
that is.
You want to take your reading at the hottest part of the engine oil.
Coolant temp senders are positioned to read the highest temp of coolant
coming out of the engine, for example.
You need some 'random output' indicator or gauge of some kind..
something not quite 'linear' so there's lots to ponder as you drive along.
let's do that ..come up with some 'randomly generatated' display ..
takes inputs from 4 places and scrambles them, but inconsistenly and
non-linearly.
Idle questions ..
now you are having an idle issue !! ?
oh no, here we go again..
btw..
I've had two 84 1.9 waterboxer vanagons crap out in flight recnetly.
and it was no igntion............... due to , apparently, a bad Idle
Stabiizer.
In both cases, disconnecting it and bypassing it got igntion happening
again.
Scott
Random Fruition
turbovans
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rocket J Squirrel" <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: Watching Oil Temp (long, as usual)
> On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 23:00 -0700, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> who cares where in the engine the oil picks up heat the most..which exact
>> spots or places..
>> all that matters is it picks up heat from the engine ..
>> as it should.
>
>
> Just trying to picture the process whereby the oil going out to the temp
> sender on the external oil cooler shows an increase in temp that the
> coolant temp gauge does not. Hey -- a fellow's got to have something to
> wonder about when looking at his Very First Oil Temp Gauge on a drive!
>
> <snip>
>
>
>> Next you'll be having an EGT gauge and wondering about that temp. ..
>
>
> I wonder about everything. How do tire sizes work? Is it possible that,
> as I have read, the Vanagon is heavier at the front tires than the rear
> when the rear has these great big heavy metal things in it? Why does it
> hurt when I pee?
>
> <snip>
>
>
>>
>> hey ! ..you could be a thermodynamics engineer/geek !
>
>
> I am a geek, that's for sure.
>
>
>>
>> glad you are having so much fun with your vanagon !
>
>
> Thanks! Glad you, and others, are around to answer my idle questions!
>
> -- RJS
>
> Sent from my idle question.
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rocket J Squirrel" <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 3:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: Watching Oil Temp (long, as usual)
>>
>>
>> > On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 13:14 -0400, Edward Maglott wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm pretty sure the coolant flows through the heads and that is where
>> >> it
>> >> picks up most of the engine heat.
>> >
>> >
>> > Oh -- okay. The only heads I've ever held were from an aircooled. They
>> > had no plumbing for coolant.
>> >
>> > So on the waterboxer, where is the oil picking up the extra heat that
>> > shows on the oil temp gauge but not the coolant gauge when the engine
>> > is
>> > under demand?
>> >
>> > -- RJS
>> >
>> > sent from my old aircooled heads
>>
