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Date:         Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:45:53 -0700
Reply-To:     Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Watching Oil Temp (long, as usual)
In-Reply-To:  <CABToOY+NHjOZA6bHsFTgrUTA_F-c42V_aBc=v9BaMhXo8Bs9BA@mail.gmail.com>
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> It's always nice in the van when I crest a climb and start heading down to > watch the temp drop. I say Ahhhhhhh for the van. > Edward > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Mike Miller <mwmiller6@att.net> wrote: > > > That's the Sherwin Grade. > > > > I've come down it at 160 and my temp gauge never budged from normal. > > Oh, did I mention? Not in a van. > > > >> I did that climb -- the Sherman Grade -- in my van in 2008 in August, > >> pulling my camping equipment trailer, in midafternoon, easily over 100 > >> F. First gear was all I could use. I watched the coolant temp gauge > >> like > >> a hawk. I also watched my rear view mirror as more modern cars with > >> better aerodynamics and stronger engines blew up the grade behind me, > >> hoping they'd see my blinkers. I can't imagine what the oil temp was. > >> > >> I've blown the cooling system on two cars going up that thing in > >> summer. > >> Had to limp back down to Bishop. Guess which end of town the two > >> radiator repair places are? North end, end closest to the grade. With > >> all the cars that fail, they do a land office business, I can tell > >> you. > >> So do the cheap motels at that end of town, folk overnighting waiting > >> for the rad shop to get the parts and finish the job. Bishop is not > >> the > >> most interesting town in the world. > >> > >> Same deal for the desert grades I clumb over last summer. Second gear? > >> Forget it. Too steep, too much campin' and kayakin' tackle along. Just > >> grind up the hills and hope for the best. > >> > >> -- RJS >

> >> > > > I came up Sherwin Grade this spring in my inline four 5sp, loaded with 3 months of camping gear and all my carpentry tools. I went back to 4th gear at the start of the climb...just because I know the road (and that climb, which I have done, on the old road, on my bicycle, in a race----another story)....and continued on up in 4th gear at 60-65mph, watching things closely. Nothing weird with either of the temp gauges, oil or coolant. Near the summit...around the scenic overlook (one of my all time favorite scenic overlooks) I ran it up to 70mph (about 4500rpms) and upshifted back into 5th, just for fun and to see what would happen....by that elevation, (8000'+) my van slowly lost speed in 5th...and it seemed to not like running along at that low of an RPM, with that large a load (4800lbs on a highway scale near Lakeveiw, Or) My oil temp seems to max out at around 220f-225f...even with that load and that grade...it was only in the 70s that afternoon in March. I imagine I might see slightly higher oil temps this time of year with 100f+ ambient temps..

I am planning an oil cooler anyhow, because I do push it (for a vanagon) up hill and I like the oil temp to be around 200-210f..not much hotter. At 225f oil temp. my indicated oil pressure goes down a little from (at cruising speed) 65psi with 15w 40 oil...I don't like seeing the oil pressure decline.


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