Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:12:26 -0700
Reply-To: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: poo powder and related
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Another "poop in a bag" toilet?
I've tried (twice) using a poop bag toilet and don't care to deal with
it again. See my points (1) and (2), below. When camping for multiple
days the filled and fermenting bags become increasingly insalubrious.
And yeah -- everything you say about the two-stage toilets is accurate:
the flush /is/ a joke (pre-spray the bowl with a bit of detergent mixed
with water to increase slipperiness), expect to do a little delicate
wiping of bits that stick; and the waste container is fussy to empty.
One slip and it's bye-bye domestic bliss.
But all in all, I find that the tradeoff is slightly, barely, in favor
of the two-stage unit.
This is one of those "no matter what you do, it's not as nice as our
plumbing at home" situations and you picks your poison.
--
Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
Bend, Ore.
1984 Westfalia. A poor but proud people.
1971 "Ladybug"-brand utility trailer ca. 1972 from a defunct company in
San Clemente, Calif., now repurposed as The Westrailia.
Sent from my kitchen.
On 08/16/2011 06:39 PM, Ellen in Oregon wrote:
> I tried one of those two-stage toilets. The "flush" feature is a joke,
> and the waste container awkward and difficult to empty, and hard to
> clean. Stumbled across this
> http://www.relianceproducts.com/products/sanitation/92.html and have
> never looked back. The simplicity of it, coupled with the easy to
> dump/easy to clean feature, and the low price (less than $20) made it
> the ideal solution in my case. YMMV.
>
> Ellen
> Lola, '85 Vanagon ASI
> Coee, Traveling Cat
>
> ‘Be Content with what you have; rejoice in the way things are. When you
> realize there is nothing lacking, the whole world belongs to you.’ *~Lao
> Tzu*
>
> > Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:09:42 -0700
> > From: camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM
> > Subject: Re: poo powder and related
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >
> > Just FYI, I've stopped using the bucket with liner and absorbent
> > materials (kitty litter, etc.) for a couple reasons.
> >
> > 1. I change out the bags every couple days because they just get nasty.
> > So thar I am, a few bags of doo-doo in a second 5-gal bucket at the end
> > of the trip. And no matter how well sealed, it's kinda stinky, and the
> > aroma permeates the plastic of the bucket, creating a lingering memory
> > of dumps of days past. ("Hmmm . . . that was good chili!")
> >
> > 2. Once home, I am not in the least comfortable tossing the bags into
> > the trash. It ain't right. Although I'm certain that folk toss their
> > disposable baby diapers there all day long.
> >
> > So I switched over to a Dometic commode. It's heavier than a bucket, but
> > pretty darn stink-leak-proof and the contents, being septic system grade
> > toilet paper, dumpage, and black water tank deodorant, are easier to
> > dispose of down the toilet. A bit at a time so as not to choke the
> > system, and care must be taken to avoid splashage.
> >
> > It's a bit clumsy, and the commode, having an upper tank with "flush"
> > water in it and a lower tank filling up with waste products, is a bit
> > heavy and sloshy, but in terms of disposal and stinkage, it's a solution
> > I'm happier with.
> >
> > --
> > Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
> > Bend, Ore.
> > 1984 Westfalia. A poor but proud people.
> > 1971 "Ladybug"-brand utility trailer ca. 1972 from a defunct company in
> > San Clemente, Calif., now repurposed as The Westrailia.
> >
> > Sent from my kitchen.
> >
> > On 08/16/2011 11:15 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote:
> > > left off the link. Here it is:
> > >
> > > http://www.cleanwaste.com/
> > >
> > > ---- Dave Mcneely<mcneely4@COX.NET> wrote:
> > >> Some time back Rocket J. Squirrel asked about toilet related
> matters. He and
> > >> others among us have used a bucket with liner and various
> absorbent materials.
> > >> Disposal is a problem, as such materials are not supposed to go
> into land fills
> > >> (just as soiled diapers are not).
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone used any of the products listed on this web site, and
> if so, how
> > >> satisfied have you been? What was good or bad about them? I have
> tried to find
> > >> out more about the absorbent material (poo powder), which is sold
> separately so
> > >> that one could not buy the company's bags, just use it with
> cheaper bags from
> > >> another source. The MSDS is very vague about what the stuff is,
> other than a
> > >> "polymer." Guess I'll see if I can learn more about diapers --
> same stuff I
> > >> think.
> > >>
> > >> The company claims the products and the waste they contain can be
> safely
> > >> disposed in the "normal trash," stating that they are "approved"
> for such
> > >> disposal. Hmmmm........... . anyone know any more about that?
> > >>
> > >> mcneely
> > >>
> > >> David McNeely
> > >
> > > --
> > > David McNeely
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