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Date:         Sat, 20 Aug 2011 22:52:33 -0500
Reply-To:     Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tubes in tires.
Comments: To: craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <CAH3v19J9=D+eRRm+usH-ywAtZmxbxhKwVjYqzjnSRBRpuMGToQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Running tubes in tubeless tires causes sidewalls to run hotter. And although it was a less than 0.1% problem, enough accidents have happened because of the practice to force the tire shops to stop putting tubes in tubeless tires.

You only need one horrible accident involving one SUV full of Mom & Kids that's linked to a real or imaginary flaw to cause the National Media to go into a feeding frenzy. The end result will be some corporation will be hurt and then all of us will pay more for whatever that entire industry delivers because everyone in that industry has to pass along their increased insurance cost to us. So, who wins at the end? The defense and the prosecution lawyers win because they all got paid.

Remember the Ford Pinto issue? If you were in a Pinto AND you were in the front seat smoking AND you were hit from behind AT THE RIGHT SPEED, the passenger compartment would get sprayed with gas and you and your family MIGHT turn into crispy critters. Ford knew about the problem but calculated accurately that it was a less than 0.1% problem. But the media picked it up anyway and at the end of their feeding frenzy Ford was screwed. Or more correctly, Ford's future customers were screwed since the cost of loosing was ultimately passed on to the consumer, just as all corporate lawsuits are.

The irony of the Pinto issue was that at the same time the Toyota Corolla was killing drivers by impaling them on the steering column. But the Toyotas weren't bursting into balls of fire and they did not grab media attention!

Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.stir-plate.com www.towercooler.com www.kegkits.com

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of craig cowan Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 9:14 PM To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com Subject: Tubes in tires.

I have a BFG that was damaged at the bead upon removal from the previous set of wheels. It is still a great tire with tons of tread. It just leaks air now. I'm thinking throw a tube in it, and since it will be used as a spare anyway..... it should hold air well then and serve it's purpose right?

Are there any flaws in this statement? Are there problems with tubes? Is there a reason why 4 tire shops told me today that they can't legally put a tube in a tubeless tire, but all suggest that I do that?

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