Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:44:26 -0700
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Van Died @ 70 MPH. Why? (Jetta conversion)
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I suppose this hot fuel hose theory could ..
apply, or be a factor ..
I wouldn't invest huge amount of energy in it though .
just practical things.
the engine mounting angle is not a major factor ..
and it would be a lot of work to re-do the whole installation.
new exhaust, lots of stuff to change.
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From: "neil n" <musomuso@gmail.com>
To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: Van Died @ 70 MPH. Why? (Jetta conversion)
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans
<scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> but you could sure improve your fuel hose installation.
> Even run them through heat-shielding fleix-metal air hose perhaps.
Google didn't show results on "fleix-metal" but will look into
flexible metal air hose.
One thought is to make the box (what I've been calling "tub" or
"tubbed") on engine cover wider. Create a few inches between fuel
hoses and tub to allow more air flow around fuel hoses. Or just
tilt the engine to 50* as was originally suggested to me some years
back. < grin > .
> consider fuel brand, how much ethanol was in it, grade, etc.
> Andy water in the fuel ?
> few techs consider the fuel itself very much, is my impression.
I purchase fuel from Chevron almost all the time. This is what was put
in prior to the event. Of note, after pulling over for lunch, the same
no start happened. I opened the engine bay, had a quick look at
things, let it cool, it started. Also of possible note, ever since
I've had the engine running reliably, on hot days, engine up to temp,
left sitting while shopping or whatever, it will always hunt up/down
for idle. Lately it's been idling really low until it settles.
> and..
> MIL coming on on steep grades when it's hot ..
> that's noteworthy.
> and codes stored ?
Just the usual codes: VSS, (none is installed), ECT sensor (has always
done this), RPM sensor (normal says Bentley as engine isn't running)
> to hot air intake ..
> possible...but I can't go there too much.
> many engines draw their air from the engine compartment.
> is there a temp sensor in the air flow meter ? ..
> ( vanagon digijet and digifant have one ..though it's never ever thought
> about )
There is an (IAT) intake air sensor on the manifold.
> you could drive it with a fuel pressure guage on it ..
This is something I've never checked; fuel pressure. I should do this stat.
> the last vanagon that I worked on that had intermittant huge loss of
> power..
> like would barely go at idle speed..
> driving with fuel pressure gauge showed immediately, that when it was
> doing
> it, fuel pressure was like 10 psi rather than the 30 or so that's normal.
> that one btw...was in the winter..was a compbo of water in gas, weak fuel
> pump, and needed a new fuel filter too.
> mil on going up a steep hill..
> I'd keep thinking about that. Get codes if possible.
Things to think about. I even considered that maybe the fuel outlet on
my older style tank wasn't large enough for high (engine) speed fuel
consumption. But I don't think that's the case. If I had simply backed
off the speed, things would have corrected themselves if it was only
the tank outlet ID at fault.
Neil.
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