Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:07:26 -0500
Reply-To: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: More v belt questions
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Scott,
I could use one of those discarded two-belt systems...
Jim
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> I just mentioned something about this the other day.
>
> you can easily make a cheater single belt system ..
> but ..
> your water pump drive ratio will be too slow.
> Ratio of crankshaft diameter to water pump pulley should be in the area of
> about 5 to 4.
>
> I 'could'........at least..
> if not offer the kit,
> offer the parts list to build a super perfect Single Belt Conversion.
>
> and ..we just yakked about this a lot, with people saying they don't mind
> their two belts-with-shims systems.
> I hate them of course.
> I *always* am building things so they are easy to work on.
> That manufacturers and engine conversion-ers don't keep that foremost in
> mind in everything they build and design ...drives me nuts.
>
> just like people don't take a jacket with them in case the weather changes
> .....or check that there is air in the spare tire and a million things like
> that...evidently people have it in the back of their minds ..'well, it
> won't
> need to be worked on that often ..so it's all right if it's really
> difficult
> to do. Won't happen that often.'
>
> yeah, right.
> there are so many things in cars that could be SO much easier to deal with
> ..
> and it's also why I have no interest or need in owning any vehicle newer
> than the early 90's at the latest.
> heck ..
> even a 93 Eurovan is a complete nightmare to work on compared the any
> vanagon.
> And as cars go ..
> vanagons are about as nice to work on in about 90 % of the whole vehicle as
> cars get ..
> super sweet that way ..which is just one of about 30 reasons why Vanagons
> are world class keeper vehicles ..
> there's just one thing they really screwed up on though ..
> the diesel vanagon two belts with shims alt and w. pump drive system.
> I would pay near anything to have the designer of that system , or
> designers...
> and make them take that apart, and put it back together..
> over and over and over , in the van, until their fingers are bloody, then
> make them do it some more.
> It's a joke..
> it's totally unnecessary. There is zero gain from having that dumb system
> on
> there.
> Any VW diesel engine I build automatically gets a good solid Single Belt
> Conversion if it had a two belts with shim system to start with.
>
> what fun !
> Scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ralph meyermann" <ralphmeyermann@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:18 PM
> Subject: More v belt questions
>
>
> Hi all me again,I hate having to shim the waterpump pulley to tighten the
>> lower belt then use alternator to tighten the upper, can I use a one belt
>> set up? My crank pulley seems to line up with the back waterpump an
>> alt,pulley any suggestions? Thanks 82 westy 1.6 na diesel
>>
>
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