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Date:   Thu, 25 Aug 2011 20:12:57 -0700
Reply-To:   Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:   Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:   Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:   Re: Van Died @ 70 MPH. Why? (Jetta conversion)
Comments:   To: neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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hi Neil, not sure if you really mean this .. you wrote - I'm sure it wasn't just to keep the engine under the lid that they did the Diesel the way they did. "

I'd say it sure is ! it's not that good to lay an engine over .. oil pan is wider/shallower, rather than deeper..which is preferred, for one thing.

there's a huge amount of turbulence going on the engine compartment, not static air at all, not even slightly, at say ..50 mph. or even at 30 mph.

drive it with no engine cover as a test.. especially if you can make it do it with engine cover on .. like on 'the right hill.' then try no engine cover. I have never ever heard of such an issue with an upright inline four engine installation.

I don't think this theory is quite it . would be nice if it is. hope about checking for codes since the MIL came on ???

would rather not ? .....or can't ? ....

----- Original Message ----- From: "neil n" <musomuso@gmail.com> To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> Cc: "vanagon" <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Van Died @ 70 MPH. Why? (Jetta conversion)

Yes lots to change, but it may be that I have to change some things to get everything the way it "should be". Like I'm still not happy with the exhaust. Have to figure out why the cat cracked loose. It was fine for many thousand miles.

yah tilting the motor to 50* is a fair amount of work. Still. VAG figured it out. I'm sure it wasn't just to keep the engine under the lid that they did the Diesel the way they did. e.g. they wouldn't have tubbed the engine lid. But what the heck. I learned a lot doing my swap this way, and it's been really reliable up til that last event. In hindsight though, things like the "tubbing" the engine cover just don't seem right. On hot days, all I can see is all that heat billowing up into that box, staying there, and adversely affecting things beyond the scope for which they were designed.

We'll see. Thankfully I had the KEP adaptor drilled for 50* mount (thank your Mark Drillock) so that much is ready to go.

Making the box wider on the engine lid is not much work.

Neil.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > I suppose this hot fuel hose theory could .. > apply, or be a factor .. > I wouldn't invest huge amount of energy in it though . > just practical things. > > the engine mounting angle is not a major factor .. > and it would be a lot of work to re-do the whole installation. > > new exhaust, lots of stuff to change.

-- Neil n

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http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines

----- Original Message ----- From: "neil n" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:57 PM Subject: Re: Van Died @ 70 MPH. Why? (Jetta conversion)

Yes lots to change, but it may be that I have to change some things to get everything the way it "should be". Like I'm still not happy with the exhaust. Have to figure out why the cat cracked loose. It was fine for many thousand miles.

yah tilting the motor to 50* is a fair amount of work. Still. VAG figured it out. I'm sure it wasn't just to keep the engine under the lid that they did the Diesel the way they did. e.g. they wouldn't have tubbed the engine lid. But what the heck. I learned a lot doing my swap this way, and it's been really reliable up til that last event. In hindsight though, things like the "tubbing" the engine cover just don't seem right. On hot days, all I can see is all that heat billowing up into that box, staying there, and adversely affecting things beyond the scope for which they were designed.

We'll see. Thankfully I had the KEP adaptor drilled for 50* mount (thank your Mark Drillock) so that much is ready to go.

Making the box wider on the engine lid is not much work.

Neil.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote: > I suppose this hot fuel hose theory could .. > apply, or be a factor .. > I wouldn't invest huge amount of energy in it though . > just practical things. > > the engine mounting angle is not a major factor .. > and it would be a lot of work to re-do the whole installation. > > new exhaust, lots of stuff to change.

-- Neil n

65 kb image Myford Ready For Assembly http://tinyurl.com/64sx4rp

'81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/

Vanagon VAG Gas I4/VR Swap Google Group:

http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines


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