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Date:         Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:03:14 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Thread locker on rod bolts?
Comments: To: Tom Lambas <twlambas@GMAIL.COM>
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I have been told that it is better to use 1.9 waterboxer rod bolts in any waterboxer engine, as they are not stretch type, like 2.1 ones are.

Scott

----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Lambas" <twlambas@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 7:50 PM Subject: Re: Thread locker on rod bolts?

> I'm guessing the 1.9 nut has the shoulder so it can be peened into the > notch > of the older rods. All but one pair of the nuts that came on the > assembled > rods has the shoulder (one pair doesn't). I'm going with the nuts that > came > installed on each corresponding rod. I can't see that it would cause > problem. I'll see what Van Cafe has to say about it tomorrow. > > Thanks, > > Tom > > On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Dennis Haynes > <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote: > >> According to my old version of ETKA, both engines use connecting rod set >> part # 025198401A. However the 1.9 uses rod bolt 113105425B and nut >> 113105427. The 2.1 uses bolt 025105425A and nut 056105427. >> >> >> >> Dennis >> >> >> >> From: Tom Lambas [mailto:twlambas@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:45 PM >> To: Dennis Haynes >> Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com >> Subject: Re: Thread locker on rod bolts? >> >> >> >> The bolts all look the same - 1.9 type I presume. >> Per Van Cafe I torqued the nuts all down to 33 lbs. >> >> Tom >> >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> If the nuts are mixed, what about the bolts? Sounds like you have a 1.9 >> and >> 2.1 mixed set. Common from some of the mass rebuilders. I love getting >> mixed >> sets of brake calipers! >> >> >> Dennis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf >> Of >> Tom Lambas >> >> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 6:17 PM >> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> >> Subject: Re: Thread locker on rod bolts? >> >> >> Thanks Dennis, >> >> I decided not to use threadlocker. Removeable stuff was on advice of >> FLAPS >> guy. >> >> As an aside, one of the rods I got from Van Cafe has the divot for >> peening >> the shoulder of the rod nut into it, and the rest don't. Also one set of >> nuts (for one cap) has no shoulder. >> Maybe this helps them "balance" the set. >> Thoughts anyone? >> >> Tom L. >> >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Dennis Haynes >> <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote: >> >> > If you're going to use a thread locker you want the strong stuff >> > there. Why even consider removable? Call Loctite and get the new >> > torque specs for that application. If the Loctite should do anything >> > at all the connection has already failed. >> > >> > Dennis >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >> > Behalf Of Tom Lambas >> > Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 1:27 PM >> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> > Subject: Thread locker on rod bolts? >> > >> > We'll, I'm back from summer travel and getting back to my 2.1 WBX >> rebuild. >> > >> > I'm installing Rods from Van Cafe. Should I use some removable thread >> > locker on the rod bolt/nut? >> > >> > Thanks, Tom >> > >> > >>


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