Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 21:38:16 -0700
Reply-To: neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From: neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Van Died @ 70 MPH. Why? (Jetta conversion)
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On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans
<scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> hi Neil,
> not sure if you really mean this ..
> you wrote -
> I'm sure it wasn't just to keep the engine under the
> lid that they did the Diesel the way they did. "
>
> I'd say it sure is !
> it's not that good to lay an engine over ..
> oil pan is wider/shallower, rather than deeper..which is preferred, for one
> thing.
I see your point. I guess I'm thinking is that VW wouldn't have made
an engine lid like I (and others) have. Like VW would have left more
room between the box and the engine. I "cut" mine kind of close.
> there's a huge amount of turbulence going on the engine compartment, not
> static air at all, not even slightly, at say ..50 mph. or even at 30 mph.
Maybe I'm "seeing" things wrong in terms of air flow, but I just can't
see much, if any, air flowing around the parts "contained" in the box
I made. If I'm not mistaken, in terms of the 15* swaps, it seems most
swappers have done a 1.8 Digifant. It has a much smaller intake. That
ABA crossflow intake takes up a lot of space. I haven't seen much
documentation on the swap I did so hard for me to know whether or not
I've created a dead zone for air flow.
But then who am I to disagree with a much more experienced person such
as yourself! :)
A thermometer of some kind (Jim Akiba has done this IIRC) on the
engine lid will tell me more.
> drive it with no engine cover as a test..
> especially if you can make it do it with engine cover on ..
> like on 'the right hill.'
> then try no engine cover.
> I have never ever heard of such an issue with an upright inline four engine
> installation.
Good idea. Thanks.
I've driven with the lid off before. Not an enviable task in hot
weather, but for the sake of diagnosing and possibly R&D for the next
guy, why not do it again! ;)
> hope about checking for codes since the MIL came on ???
I've checked the codes many times. Consistently I get:
VSS, ECT.
VSS not installed. ECT? Wires from ECU connector to ECT sensor are ok.
Swapped sensors, no change. In terms of the wiring harness itself,
back when I was adapting it to the Vanagon, I noticed, and thought
about a lot, a note in Bentley regarding "California only",
"non-California", or "all" models up to or from 9/28/93 (My donor
harness was from a '93) showing + to pin 3 of CMP sensor on
distributor either came from pin 1 of throttle position sensor, or
from the + buss of the FI's. (via ECU power relay ign. on + wire). But
I think all that is fine as wires to/from the TPS and CMP check out
and I can't see how that would affect the ECT sensor. Plus the engine
basically runs fine.
Meh. ;)
Neil.
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Neil n
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