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Date:         Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:17:30 -0400
Reply-To:     craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Front Blinkers are super Dim
Comments: To: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <4E56C7FE.8070801@gmail.com>
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Okay gang, I've learned alot. I've rebuilt sockets and figured out the way the bulbs go in matter. I have mastered the drivers side and it is working well. I even made a "tool" composed of a bulb with 3 wires soldered to it with spades at the end to bypass the socket completely and see the the terminals are at the right spots. However, the passangers side will not seem to work properly. I can get it to work well as a blinker but it will not operate at all as a side marker.

Interestingly, I have now noticed that the rear corner light of the tail light assembly no longer works. I believe it did (and i've tested the bulb, bulb's good), so it seems they have failed together. Is this possible? Do they share anything in common?

Thanks!

-Craig

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Rocket J Squirrel < camping.elliott@gmail.com> wrote:

> Even a headlight doesn't draw enough current to cause a 4-volt sag in the > wiring. > > How about this: your voltmeter does not respond quickly enough to catch the > full 12 volts during flasher ON when you probe the bulb. It only gets up to > 9V during the "on" cycle before the voltage falls to zero for the OFF > moment. > > If that's the case, then the 9V is a red herring, and the bulbs may in fact > be the wrong kind. > > Whatcha got there? A digital or an analog voltmeter? > > -- > Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott > Bend, Ore. > 1984 Westfalia. A poor but proud people. > 1971 "Ladybug"-brand utility trailer ca. 1972 from a defunct company in San > Clemente, Calif., now repurposed as The Westrailia. > > Sent from my kitchen. > > On 08/25/2011 02:59 PM, craig cowan wrote: > >> gowesty sold me the bulbs, there previously were no bulbs and thus no >> data. >> >> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Rocket J Squirrel >> <camping.elliott@gmail.com <mailto:camping.elliott@gmail.**com<camping.elliott@gmail.com>>> >> wrote: >> >> It would take some seriously wrong bulbs -- bulbs with far more wattage >> than would fit those sockets -- to drag the voltage down from 13V to >> 9V. >> >> BTW, voltage isn't current. Current is amperes. >> >> >> -- >> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott >> Bend, Ore. >> 1984 Westfalia. A poor but proud people. >> 1971 "Ladybug"-brand utility trailer ca. 1972 from a defunct company in >> San Clemente, Calif., now repurposed as The Westrailia. >> >> Sent from my kitchen. >> >> On 08/25/2011 02:39 PM, Karl Wolz wrote: >> >> I was thinking "wrong bulbs", but if the current is actually 9V, >> that's >> obviously not the problem, although he said the problem occurred >> when he >> replaced the bulbs, so they're still my prime suspect. >> >> Karl Wolz >> >> >> >> |-----Original Message----- >> |From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.**__com >> <mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.**com <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>>] >> |On Behalf Of Rocket J Squirrel >> |Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:52 PM >> |To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM <mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.**COM<vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >> > >> >> |Subject: Re: Front Blinkers are super Dim >> | >> |He says the side marker lights are nice and bright. Don't they >> |share the ground with the turn indicators? Poor grounds on >> |both sides of the vehicle is not impossible, but I don't know >> |how a ground could favor one filament over another. >> | >> |AND the man writes to say that, "I seem to be getting around 9 >> |volts to the blinkers while 13 volts is measured in corner >> |marker mode with the engine running." >> | >> |Far better to investigate where the missing four volts have >> |gone. Me, I'd be eyeballing the blinker relay thingy. >> | >> |-- >> |Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott >> |Bend, Ore. >> |1984 Westfalia. A poor but proud people. >> |1971 "Ladybug"-brand utility trailer ca. 1972 from a defunct >> |company in San Clemente, Calif., now repurposed as The Westrailia. >> | >> |Sent from my kitchen. >> | >> |On 08/25/2011 01:19 PM, Greg Potts wrote: >> |> Measure continuity from ground side of the bulb connection >> |to ground. >> |> If it's more than 0 Ohms, you have found the problem. >> |> >> |> Happy Trails, >> |> >> |> Greg Potts >> |> Toronto, Ontario Canada >> |> 197x Westfakia "Bob the Tomato" >> |> 1987 Wolfsburg Weekender Hardtop (ND Graphics graphics wrap) >> |> 1988 Wolfsburg Weekender Hardtop (Colleen's ride) Engine >> conversion >> |> blog: http://www.pottsfamily.ca/__**wordpress/<http://www.pottsfamily.ca/__wordpress/> >> <http://www.pottsfamily.ca/**wordpress/<http://www.pottsfamily.ca/wordpress/> >> > >> |> www.pottsfamily.ca <http://www.pottsfamily.ca> >> >> |> >> |> BUSES OF THE CORN - AUGUST 12-14th, 2011 >> www.busesofthecorn.ca <http://www.busesofthecorn.ca> >> >> |> >> |> >> |> On 8/25/2011 3:36 PM, craig cowan wrote: >> |>> What ground goes to the blinker? >> |>> The relay is labeled number 21 and it looks like it's in >> really nice >> |>> shape. >> |>> Contacts are perfect. Any way to test? >> |>> >> |>> -Craig >> |>> >> |>> >> |>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Rob<becida@comcast.net >> <mailto:becida@comcast.net>> wrote: >> >> |>> >> |>>> if it's VW, electrical& a problem add a ground. >> |>>> Seriously, add a ground or at least super clean what you >> have. >> |>>> >> |>>> Rob >> |>>> >> |>>> >> |>>> >> |>>> At 8/25/2011 09:42 AM,craig cowan wrote: >> |>>> >> |>>>> In getting all the lights to work on my project syncro >> ('87), i'm >> |>>>> finding >> |>>>> that the front blinkers are SUPER dim. Uselessly so. This >> |is despite >> |>>>> new >> |>>>> bulbs and cleaned up housings. As side marker lights with >> |either the >> |>>>> ignition off or on, they are wonderfully bright. However, >> |as blinkers, >> |>>>> only >> |>>>> a single element lights and poorly. I seem to be getting >> around >> |>>>> 9volts to >> |>>>> the blinkers while 13 volts is measured in corner marker >> |mode with the >> |>>>> engine running. >> |>>>> >> |>>>> I really have no idea why this would be, as it seems to >> |me there's good >> |>>>> power and ground since the marker mode works well. >> |>>>> Any ideas as to where to start? I'm completely at a loss >> so any >> |>>>> suggestion >> |>>>> would be good. >> |>>>> >> |>>>> Thanks! >> |>>>> >> |>>>> -Craig Cowan >> |>>>> >> |>>> >> |>>> >> |>> >> |----- >> |No virus found in this message. >> |Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> >> >> |Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3856 - Release Date: >> |08/25/11 >> >> >>


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