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Date:         Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:21:13 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Alternator Brushes Wore Out Pretty Darn Quick
Comments: To: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <4E52F32A.1020008@gmail.com>
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Are you thinking the Bosch remans come from Germany? The transportation and distribution alone will suck up $100. Nothing wrong with a quality local rebuilder. The problem is good parts for these get expensive fast. The assembly line places use volume and re-working many parts to cut costs. Housing shot! Bore it out and fit a bushing. Slip rings worn, machine down and press on a sleeve. Brushes worn, solder new one to that old regulator, etc. Same with starters. The big places can balance and test so you often get a good unit. Unfortunately the real quality control is the end user. That is why we want a warranty.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Rocket J Squirrel Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:24 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Alternator Brushes Wore Out Pretty Darn Quick

For $160 (no core), Ron lists the "AL33XOR" as "U.S. Remanufactured," not Bosch remanufactured. So that's a bit confusing.

Anyway, Dennis Haynes suggested I check for a worn rear bearing by taking off the belt and trying to rock the alt fan, but I detected no rockerage, so it's not clear to me if my quickly worn brushes warn of an alternator needing replacement or not.

<Insert image of squirrel scratching head here>

-- Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott Bend, Ore. 1984 Westfalia. A poor but proud people. 1971 "Ladybug"-brand utility trailer ca. 1972 from a defunct company in San Clemente, Calif., now repurposed as The Westrailia.

Sent from my kitchen.

On 08/22/2011 05:17 PM, mark drillock wrote: > Yes, the genuine AL33X is the only version I buy, in a Bosch box. I > suggest the Van-Cafe one as I'm not sure what games Ron is playing > with his part numbers. He sometimes uses other companies part numbers > in ways that are confusing if not deceptive. If he is offering Rebuilt > By Bosch parts but not telling the Official Bosch Rebuilt part number > for the item then we can't be sure of exactly what we are ordering. > Bosch uses their own specific numbers for their rebuilt items and > AL33X is such a number. It is perhaps the most universal of the VW 90 > amp alternators of the vintage covering our vans and many original > Bosch longer part number versions are all replaceable by the AL33X unit. > > WBX Vanagons can also use an AL27X instead as the distinctions are > very minor at most. I wonder if the BD unit is one of those or if > perhaps they don't care to specify since it could allow them to ship > either the 27X or 33X as available? Either will work about the same > for WBX but for my mixed fleet the 33X works with diesel tachs while > the 27X often won't so I have standardized on the 33X for all. > > Mark > > Rocket J Squirrel wrote: >> Thanks, Mark. >> >> I'm seeing "AL33X" (Van-Cafe, $115 + $73 core) or "025903023EX" >> (Busdepot, same pricing). >> >> Both are described a "genuine Bosch Rebuilt units." This pretty much >> what you're recommending? >> >> -- >> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott >> Bend, Ore. >> 1984 Westfalia. A poor but proud people. >> 1971 "Ladybug"-brand utility trailer ca. 1972 from a defunct company >> in San Clemente, Calif., now repurposed as The Westrailia. >> >> Sent from my kitchen. >> >> On 08/22/2011 04:03 PM, mark drillock wrote: >>> In general, I have had the best experiences with Bosch parts sold as >>> "Genuine Rebuilt" and in Bosch boxes.


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