Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:10:05 -0700
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From: Rocket J Squirrel <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Minimum spares kit. Was: Alternator Brushes Wore Out Pretty
Darn Quick
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On 08/29/2011 08:58 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
> The ignition module! And you have one.
>
> Dennis
>
I do!?! Oh, goody!
Scott's explanation was helpful -- the only other engine I have any
familiarity with is ye olde 1600 dp from my (now sold) 71 bus. That
thing had points* to make and break current into the primary of the
coil. But okay, here we have a Hall sensor, which ain't gonna make or
break any current strong enough to interest a coil, so, okay -- an
"igniter" to send the pulses into the coil's primary. Got it.
Learn something new all the time.
--
Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
Bend, Ore.
1984 Westfalia. A poor but proud people.
1971 "Ladybug"-brand utility trailer ca. 1972 from a defunct company in
San Clemente, Calif., now repurposed as The Westrailia.
Sent from my kitchen.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Rocket J Squirrel
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 11:09 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Minimum spares kit. Was: Alternator Brushes Wore Out Pretty
> Darn Quick
>
> "Igniter if it's not inside the ecu."
>
> What the dickens is an igniter?
>
> --
> Jack "Rocket j Squirrel" Elliott
> Bend, Ore.
> 1984 Westfalia. A poor but proud people.
> 1971 "Ladybug"-brand utility trailer ca. 1972 from a defunct company in San
> Clemente, Calif., now repurposed as The Westrailia.
>
> Sent from my kitchen.
>
> On 08/29/2011 07:34 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>> I agree not necessary to carry a spare throttle body.
>> the worst that is likely to happen is an idle problem ..
>>
>> 'anything that can prevent you from moving' is what I go by.
>>
>> Starter is heavy ........and with manual trans you can always push or
>> tow start if you have to, so I never carry a spare starter, usually
> anyway.
>>
>> yes on the water pump unless it's pretty new.
>>
>> absolutely on the ecu ..
>> they are generally quite good ...
>> I can think of 3 that were genuinely bad in the last 2 or 3
>> years...among maybe 70 EFI vanagons.
>> One was just a couple of months ago.
>> I seriously carry a known-good spare ECU ..
>> if that thing takes a dump on ya.....you ain't goin' nowhere.
>>
>> mandatory I'd say.
>> Temp Sensor II for sure.
>> distributor for sure.
>> Igniter if it's not inside the ecu.
>> a spare good plug wire or two ..
>> left over tune up parts that are still good.
>> oxygen sensor ..
>> real like scenario....
>> I just had a hose blow out ...spewing coolant all over the engine.
>> That lead to a so-so used distributor cap crapping out ..
>> and a didn't-look-bad-at-all oxygen sensor crapping out as well. ..
>> though you can always keep moving with the 02 connected if you need
>> to. Not as smooth, burns more gas....but still runs all right.
>> Air intake boot ..if I have one of those ...I carry that.
>> and a box of misc hoses, hose junctions, and hose clamps.
>>
>> Scott
>> www.turbovans.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "neil n"<musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
>> To:<vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 5:18 PM
>> Subject: Re: Minimum spares kit. Was: Alternator Brushes Wore Out
>> Pretty Darn Quick
>>
>>
>> I had a real tendency to carry way too many spares.
>>
>> Here's a before and after of paring down:
>>
>> https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/MiscVanagonWestyPics#53873873555
>> 55099026
>>
>>
>> Like I really didn't need the extra throttle body. ;) I still tend to
>> carry too much stuff, but there are times when I add something to my
>> rig or fiddle with things. Nice to have the extra stuff for that. If I
>> had an SO and/or kids, I wouldn't have time for that kind of thing
>> while on the road!
>>
>> What one carries depends on the engine too. In terms of a minimum, I
>> carry spares for parts that when failed, would cause a no start
>> situation:
>>
>> Ones shared with WBX:
>>
>> starter (this one could be debatable but it would depend on the
>> situation) ign. switch Distributor, cap/rotor, tension lead to/from
>> coil.
>> fuel pump
>> alt/water pump belt
>> coil
>> wires/tape/various connectors etc.
>> gasket material
>>
>> I suspect I really should carry a water pump and ECU too. There's
>> probably things I've forgotten
>>
>>
>>
>> Neil.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Poppie Jagersand
>> <poppie.jagersand@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I also ask: How many spares should one really carry? Wife drives
>>> Toyota with no clue what to do if it stops... So do 99% of others
>>> whether they drive a car or RV.
>>>
>>> I used to have spares and tools filling the whole storage under the
>>> bench, but with a growing family there's need for the wife and kid's
>>> stuff too!
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Neil n
>>
>> 65 kb image Myford Ready For Assembly http://tinyurl.com/64sx4rp
>>
>> '81 VanaJetta 2.0 "Jaco" http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
>>
>> Vanagon VAG Gas I4/VR Swap Google Group:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-
>> engines
>>
>
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