Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:09:03 -0500
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From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: Refrigerator lighting
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Scott, when I saw the subject line, I thought it was about lighting the refrigerator burner, a process that many have difficulty doing.
"Failure" means, according to my dictionary, "The condition or fact of not achieving the desired end or ends." If the desired end is for the propane burner to light, and it does not do so, that is failure. If the desired end is for the engine to start, and it does not, that is failure.
Maybe effective communication depends on both parties :-) . mcneely
---- Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> wrote:
> Curious.......
> how many people thought, upon seeing the subject line 'refrigerator
> lighting' ..
> that it was about having a small 12 volt light inside the fridge so you can
> see in there in the dark.?
>
> now.....'lighting fridge on propane' ..
> that would have been clear.
>
> I also suggest subject line words like 'catastrophe' and 'failure' be saved
> for actual destroyed things..
> not just when the engine won't fully cooperate, like doesn't run quite
> right..
> that's 'failure to run right '.............but it's not 'engine failure.'
> That's blown up stuff.
> thanks.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "neil n" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Refrigerator lighting
>
>
> Hi Leonard.
>
> Are you certain the drain plug is clear? If so.....
>
> This takes patience, but if you can see when the flame is dying, open
> the drain. Or, pump the air pump. Anything to introduce more air into
> the burner box. If either keeps the flame alive, either the air
> in/exhaust out cycle isn't happening or your intake tube is still
> clogged. If no change, it *may* be a fuel delivery problem. Clogged
> burner jet, LP line, etc. Also.....
>
> The flame will be 2 different sizes when fridge operating normally; no
> cooling needed, smaller flame, cooling needed, larger flame. Since
> your LED doesn't work and that it can be hard to see the flame via the
> viewer, you may think it's out but the flame is just at the smaller
> size (unlikely though given that flame likely in full size mode to
> cool down the fridge) A cardboard tube held up against the viewer is
> great or seeing if the flame is alive. Especially during daylight
> hours.
>
> The thermosat relies on a small metal tube:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/musomuso/DometicPics#5348037090587070146
>
> in a slot on the back of the aluminum cooling unit to determine when
> cooling needed or not. There should be a narrow white (silicone?) bit
> that holds this tube in the slot up against the aluminum. I doubt
> yours is messed up, but it's not too hard to check.
>
> To be clear, Dennis Haynes knows far more about all things Vanagon
> (and lots of others) than I ever will, but I think he was suggesting
> that the flue was crucial particularly when vehicle is in motion. I
> found, as others have, that with fridge on the bench, BBQ propane tank
> connected, no flue parts attached, it light it up and stayed lit.
>
> Neil.
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Leonard Sitongia <sitongia@onebeam.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> > Then I did the vacuuming, and that helped.
> >
> > It now lights pretty easily. It stays lit for about five minutes, and goes
> > out. The flame in the window isn't bright, the LED on the panel never
> > lights up, but I can hear a good burn going from the flue. A regular
> > rumble. The fridge fins got a little cool.
> >
> > It's pretty warm out right now, here in Boulder, CO, USA. I didn't
> > pre-cool it on 110v like I usually do because I wanted to see how well it
> > did warm.
> >
> > Also, I didn't put the flue cover back on completely, in case I wanted to
> > do something else. I now see another posting that the flue assembly is
> > important to keep exhaust from being sucked back in.
> >
> > So, I'll pre-cool it, put the flue back together and try in the morning.
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
> Neil n
>
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>
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>
> Vanagon VAG Gas I4/VR Swap Google Group:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines
--
David McNeely
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