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Date:         Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:42:48 -0700
Reply-To:     Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Diesel Engine Upgrade
Comments: To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
In-Reply-To:  <081f01cc68f4$ba63bfb0$6401a8c0@PROSPERITY>
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On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans < scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

> sorry... > Don must be joking. > 48 horse power !!? > there are RIDING LAWN MOWERS with more power than that !! >

I was joking. I put a (grin!) at the end of my joking reply to make sure the OP knew I was making a wry comment. I did seriously suggest he try a ride in a standard diesel motored Vanagon....I was 'blown away' at the incredible slowness of the one I rode in when I was considering buying one.. I had no idea anything legal to drive could be so very slow.... 48hp? Is that what those motors put out? I have a 650cc motorcycle....built in 1988 that puts out more horsepower than that...and with rider, it weighs about 400lbs.....that is one tenth the weight of a non westie vanagon.

If indeed you'd compare a diesel VW motor to an inline gas VW motor.....You could argue you'd be likely to pay ten times as much money for 1/3rd the horsepower...

I'm not saying you shouldn't go the diesel route....There are plenty of happy diesel vanagon drivers. I am saying that when I did all my looking and comparing...dollar for dollar, and then took my demo-ride, I decided the VW N/A diesel motors were no deal that I was interested in. Admittedly, I only spent about 3hrs riding in one (it is one hour trip in my gasser...., done the same mountain many times since then, in mine)...but during that 3hr ride, I saw many dangerous manuevers as people got angry and impatient behind us and did stupid stuff. I saw many one fingered salutes....rather then the "Peace Sign" we often see driving a VW van. I'm fairly self-assured and I have a decently thick skin....but enduring all that anger, on a daily basis because I was going so slow and holding up everyone else....that would get to me...I don't need that kind of Karma...

If you drive on the flat mostly and aren't on two lane roads with limited passing for others...probably be just fine...Me, I am in the mountains in my van or on remote twisty two lane back roads. I commute on a two lane highway that traffic flows at 65+mph, it is windy often, and has rolling terrain with some hills...

Don Hanson


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