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Date:         Sat, 10 Sep 2011 11:54:15 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Westy Now, Boat Soon? (Friday)
Comments: To: Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
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lol.. 'Crippling Realities' .. how well put.. that's 'the problem' in general......those Crippling Realities that always getcha.

I'll say this about Vanagon or Sprinter ( too big btw ......big expensive parts...can't push start if you have to ... etc ) ........Land Wandering .. When you're not driving and burning fuel and helping pollute everything .. at least your safe on dry land !

and that is a wonderful thing about Camper vans.. you don't have to be driving them to get great use and value out of them.. even parked in your own yard they're great fun .. or guest bedroom or whatever.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Grisanti" <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 5:00 AM Subject: Re: Westy Now, Boat Soon? (Friday)

Having read many of the replies before getting to this original post, the Sprinter buildout can still be attractive if you expand it to contain an onboard biodiesel or WVO handling facility. Your concerns about a shortage of "gas" vs. "fuel" might be lessened somewhat. To me, that is the greatest attraction of diesel vehicles, that you can produce your own fuel if need be.

Before anyone in the brain trust hits me with the crippling realities of WVO or biodiesel production, please let me continue with my own dream. Thanks.

Stephen

--- On Fri, 9/9/11, Steve Williams <sbw@SBW.ORG> wrote:

From: Steve Williams <sbw@SBW.ORG> Subject: Westy Now, Boat Soon? (Friday) To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Date: Friday, September 9, 2011, 7:20 PM

For some time now, I've been obsessed with learning enough about sailboats to acquire one and outfit it for living more independently.

Of course, that's why I bought my '84 Westy and fixed it up two years ago. And why I keep refining its camping systems. I've been traveling full time for two years. I've really enjoyed it. Alas, I'm starting a full-time job next week and looking for an apartment, but I hope to be camping most weekends and back on the road eventually.

But even the Westy doesn't quite scratch the itch I have, to be more self-reliant and opt out of the traditional job/debt/consume treadmill. I've thought about building a Sprinter-based camper, which would be easier to boondock, but adventures in campers with tires are driven by gas, and I'm not so sure gas will be easy to come by before long.

So I've started reading about sailboats and the people who use them to lead more independent, adventurous lives. I don't know whether or when I will buy my first boat, but I'm enjoying the learning process.

If you're curious, here's a good place to start: Nomadness, the ship being outfitted by Steven K. Roberts, who has a long history of adventures on recumbent home-built bikes and boats.

http://nomadness.com/


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