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Date:         Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:54:10 -0700
Reply-To:     Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Alistair Bell <albell@SHAW.CA>
Subject:      Re: Headlight Upgrade Eilemma
Comments: To: John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <4E6A4172.4050904@charter.net>
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look at page 97.72, all the terminals on the back of the panel are labelled.

alistair

On 2011-09-09, at 9:40 AM, John Rodgers wrote:

> Not exactly. > > When looking at the Bentley 97.119 image 97.1392 what is the pin numbering sequence? > > I assume: > > 1>2 > 3>4 > 5>6 > etc. > > If so, Pins 1>2 & 3 are occupied. The rest have nothing connected. > > John > > John Rodgers > Clayartist and Moldmaker > 88'GL VW Bus Driver > Chelsea, AL > Http://www.moldhaus.com > > > On 9/9/2011 11:05 AM, Alistair Bell wrote: >> John, >> >> here is the list I sent yesterday, does it not make sense to you which terminals have power at what conditions? >> >> alistair >> >> >>> So here is what I think they do, open to corrections: >>> >>> G1& G3 - X-bus controlled power >>> G2& G5 #15, ign. switched power via fuse S18 >>> G4 - D+ (alternator trigger circuit) via dash alt. led >>> G6 - dead end >>> G7 - power with headlight on >>> G8 - dimmer controlled panel lighting power >>> G9 - license plate lights circuit, via fuse S20 >>> G10 - hot when windscreen washer runs (used for headlight washer) >>> >>> >>> and the M terminals below >>> >>> M1 - tied to G7 >>> M2 - power when low beams on >>> >>> >>> This is for my '86 syncro passenger van. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2011-09-09, at 8:53 AM, John Rodgers wrote: >> >>> Mark, >>> >>> I note several unused pins on the "G" panel on the fuseblock. What are >>> they used for? Might one of these work for my wire. The wire connects >>> to the supply side of the relay - or relay pin 87. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> John . >>> >>> John Rodgers >>> Clayartist and Moldmaker >>> 88'GL VW Bus Driver >>> Chelsea, AL >>> Http://www.moldhaus.com >>> >>> >>> On 9/9/2011 9:30 AM, mark drillock wrote: >>>> Maybe it already has headlight relays installed? >>>> >>>> There are 7 P connections. 2 are always used by the base vehicle. >>>> >>>> That leaves 5 for options/expansion. >>>> power windows use 1 >>>> power locks use 1 >>>> gas fired heater uses 1 (rare) >>>> typical headlight relay kit uses 2 >>>> >>>> Is the other larger .375" P spade available? >>>> If so, put a bigger end on your new wire and use it. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> John Rodgers wrote: >>>>> I was going to upgrade my headlight circuits with headlight relays to >>>>> handle new higher wattage lights. Part of this requires cutting some >>>>> wires and these wires are clearly identified in the instructions. When I >>>>> went to do this, and removed the steering column cover to better see >>>>> what I was doing, I discovered a rat's net of wires where the PO had >>>>> done a whole lot of upgrading for himself. There is no way for me to >>>>> identify all those wires making the install non-compatible. So, what >>>>> to do? >>>>> >>>>> I decided to use the TJ Hannick approach, using 30 amp relay mounted on >>>>> the dash fascia on the left side of the insturment pod and under the >>>>> instrument pod cover. Four wires, no cutting, plug and play - Right? >>>>> Wrong!!! >>>>> >>>>> The first three wires to the relay were a snap. But the fourth - the one >>>>> that powers the control circuit inside the relay - the fourth one is to >>>>> be plugged into the "P" panel on the back side of the fuse block. Once >>>>> that last wire is connected - the light would/should work. Well, no >>>>> joy!! I dropped the fuse block, only to discover that the "P" panel >>>>> looked like a Christmas tree loaded with ornaments. The PO in his >>>>> rewiring, had used all 6 output pins and had put extenders on them, >>>>> increasing their ability to carry more connectors with wires. But to the >>>>> detriment of adding anything else at all!!! >>>>> >>>>> My question here is - where else can I connect to pull power for getting >>>>> the relay to work. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> -- John Rodgers Clayartist and Moldmaker 88'GL VW Bus Driver Chelsea, AL >>>>> Http://www.moldhaus.com >>>>> >>>> >> >


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