Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:12:07 -0500
Reply-To: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: No luck getting injection pump drive shaft seal out
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I am amazed, though, at the amount of slop that can be in that front shaft
and still have it seal.
Crafstman sells a set of four picks about a foot or so long. If you drill a
hole in the seal housing you should be able to lever part of it out with
that. Then you can get a good pair of longnose on there and twist until the
metal rolls out. I have done it with the pump out of the car and it wasn't
all that easy, but not all that bad either as seals go.
Definitely try prying.
Jim
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote:
> To some extent replacing the seal can be a waste of time anyway. Shaft
> leakage is often a symptom of a worn pump such as the shaft or bushing.
>
> Dennis
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poppie Jagersand
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 9:06 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: No luck getting injection pump drive shaft seal out
>
> Got another couple of hours work on the Diesel injection pump issue today,
> but made no real progress. Yesterday before it got dark I had gotten the
> timing belt and pulley off so I had access to the injection pump drive shaft
> seal.
>
> Today I tried getting the drive shaft seal out in various ways:
>
> 1. drilled small holes with a dremel in the (metal) lip of the seal.
> Screwed in screws and tugged at the screws. Unfportunately the screws would
> strip the threads and seal would not move.
>
> 2. Along the lines of this guy I tried to pry it out. Also no luck.
> http://crustycrank.com/resealinjpump.htm
> (I used one of those trim removal tools which gave me a nice grip behind
> the seal lip, but I could not make it move. Tried pulling straingt out with
> both hands (real knuckle buster working witht he pump in the van). Also
> tried leveraging the pry tool off the pump flange. Still no luck.
>
> 3. Made a hook from a bike spoke with the flange cut off. I could get the
> J-part in betwen the seal and shaft, then tuen it 90degrees and have the J
> catch the seal lip. However either the seal lip would pierce or the bike
> spoke bend would straighten, but the seal would not move.
>
> So much trouble for what I thought shoudl have been a relatively easy
> seal-pop-out...
>
> Anyone has suggestions for what to do?
>
> I could use a drift and try to collapse the seal outer ring, but I'm adraid
> a slip would make me strike the drive shaft just on the surface where the
> seal rides.
>
> Thanks for any tips or ideas.
>
> Martin (and '82 Westy 1.9TD "Poppie")
>
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