Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:52:16 -0700
Reply-To: Daniel Rotblatt <d.rotblatt@VERIZON.NET>
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From: Daniel Rotblatt <d.rotblatt@VERIZON.NET>
Subject: Re: vanagon trans slipping
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Annie,
That sounds like something easy to try....where the heck is neutral safety switch located? Couldn't find it in a quick look at Bantleys. I looked on Van Cafe and got a pic of it:
http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/search?keywords=neutral+safety+switch
Dan
Los Angeles, CA
"Winky" the '85 Westy Weekender
On Oct 25, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Annie wrote:
> Daniel,
>
> Not sure if it's of any help to you but when my AT was doing something very similar, it was the neutral safety switch. It was not making full contact and was slipping around on the lever.
>
> I cleaned and tightened it up and it's working perfectly since. No slipping issues and no starting issues (I was also having issues starting the van sometimes, but it started out exactly like yours).
>
> Thanks, ~Annie email: lsandrsn@gmail.com
>
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Daniel Rotblatt <d.rotblatt@verizon.net> wrote:
> Robert,
>
> On Oct 25, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Robert Fisher wrote:
>
> > Or you might try Seafoam TransTune. When you say "slipping", do you mean
> > that engine RPMs increase without an increase in speed, or it delays
> > changing gear and winds out the engine?
>
> By slipping I mean an increase in the RPM's for a moment before going into gear (i.e. no increase in speed/power). It's not all the time.
>
> > I haven't paid attention myself to what gear the tranny goes into when
> > slowing into and accelerating out of a turn.
>
> Not too familiar with AT. From the feel on any automatic car I would say that normally when coasting or braking around a corner the AT goes into neutral or a clutch disengages, then as I give it gas around the corner it engages and powers the car. In Winky, it feels like it's slipping when it engages. But like I said, I'm not familiar with how a AT works - though I'm intimately familiar with a manual having worked on/rebuilt the one in my spitfire.
>
> > At normal acceleration10 mph is
> > still first gear, but it may well be 2nd coming through a corner. If you can
> > determine that, or even duplicate the problem shifting manually it might
> > help you figure out what is going on (or out). If it's second gear then
> > perhaps an adjustment of the band would gain you some time, 'tho iirc it
> > shouldn't really need adjustment. If it's the brake band piston I believe
> > you can refurbish that readily with the tranny in the car, however I think
> > anything you do at this point is delaying the inevitable. I guess you have
> > to decide if an attempt at a minor repair is worth the cost in effort to
> > push back the rebuild.
> > If it's slipping (in either fashion) regularly in first while accelerating
> > in a straight line I would suspect the forward clutch.
>
> I'm thinking that I won't need the differential - mine seems fine. I understand that that's one way to do it and the cost is appreciably smaller. It doesn't look like to difficult a job pulling the trans. The other issue is that the engine also has a bit of a hic-up. I took it to Santa Fe this summer and on the way back experienced what is probably Vanagon disease - hesitations or "hic-ups" as one article put it. Probably an issue with the AFM:
>
> http://www.vanagonauts.com/index.phtml?catid=115
>
> I'm going to try the capacitor fix and see if it works. Basically, I want to know that the car will run OK before I put the money into the trans, if I can't fix the engine, I might just try to sell it in the spring and get another one. Of course there's the old "know problems" vs. "new problems" philosophy. At this point I'm hoping to get by for while I try to fix the engine.
>
> Dan
> Los Angeles, CA
> "Winky" the '85 Westy Weekender
>
>
> >
> >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@q.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If you're resigned to having it rebuilt anyway, add a couple caps full of
> >> brake fluid. Works by conditioning the rubber seals (makes them swell a
> >> bit). Don't add more than that little bit.
> >>
> >> Karl Wolz
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> |-----Original Message-----
> >> |From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]
> >> |On Behalf Of Daniel Rotblatt
> >> |Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:01 AM
> >> |To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >> |Subject: Re: vanagon trans slipping
> >> |
> >> |Eh... I drained some ATF and added the same amount of Lucas
> >> |ATF stuff. The trans is still slipping, maybe a slight bit
> >> |better, but that may be hopeful thinking. Seems to slip
> >> |sometimes when slowly speeding up at low speeds - around 10
> >> |MPH - and sometimes more on turns (maybe right turns?).
> >> |General shifting seems slow as well, but I'm now worried about
> >> |it so I'm really focused on it. Certainly not as smooth as my
> >> |'06 Tacoma.
> >> |
> >> |Dan
> >> |Los Angeles, CA
> >> |"Winky" the '85 Westy Weekender
> >> |
> >> |On Oct 25, 2011, at 9:33 AM, <mkriley@fuse.net> wrote:
> >> |
> >> |> did it work?
> >> |> mike
> >> |> <Re: vanagon trans slipping.eml>
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cya,
> > Robert
> >
> > '87 & '86 Auto GLs
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