Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 16:06:58 -0700
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Subject: Fw: vanagon trans slipping. Adjustable?
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> I'm not sure if the VW A/T is adjustable against slippage. As I remember,
> some A/Ts are adjustable.
> Zoltan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Annie" <lsandrsn@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:54 PM
> Subject: Re: vanagon trans slipping
>
>
>> Right on the shifter lever.
>>
>> Take off the cover - the bolts are under the edge of the carpet. If you
>> want
>> it out of the way completely, you'll have to remove the handle/knob from
>> the
>> lever to get the cover over the shaft. I just left it. It moves out of
>> the
>> way enough to work around it.
>>
>> *Thanks, ~Annie* email: lsandrsn@gmail.com
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Daniel Rotblatt
>> <d.rotblatt@verizon.net>wrote:
>>
>>> Annie,
>>>
>>> That sounds like something easy to try....where the heck is neutral
>>> safety
>>> switch located? Couldn't find it in a quick look at Bantleys. I looked
>>> on
>>> Van Cafe and got a pic of it:
>>>
>>> http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/search?keywords=neutral+safety+switch
>>>
>>> Dan
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>> "Winky" the '85 Westy Weekender
>>>
>>> On Oct 25, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Annie wrote:
>>>
>>> Daniel,
>>>
>>> Not sure if it's of any help to you but when my AT was doing something
>>> very
>>> similar, it was the neutral safety switch. It was not making full
>>> contact
>>> and was slipping around on the lever.
>>>
>>> I cleaned and tightened it up and it's working perfectly since. No
>>> slipping
>>> issues and no starting issues (I was also having issues starting the van
>>> sometimes, but it started out exactly like yours).
>>>
>>> *Thanks, ~Annie* email: lsandrsn@gmail.com
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Daniel Rotblatt
>>> <d.rotblatt@verizon.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Robert,
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 25, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Robert Fisher wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Or you might try Seafoam TransTune. When you say "slipping", do you
>>>> > mean
>>>> > that engine RPMs increase without an increase in speed, or it delays
>>>> > changing gear and winds out the engine?
>>>>
>>>> By slipping I mean an increase in the RPM's for a moment before going
>>>> into
>>>> gear (i.e. no increase in speed/power). It's not all the time.
>>>>
>>>> > I haven't paid attention myself to what gear the tranny goes into
>>>> > when
>>>> > slowing into and accelerating out of a turn.
>>>>
>>>> Not too familiar with AT. From the feel on any automatic car I would
>>>> say
>>>> that normally when coasting or braking around a corner the AT goes into
>>>> neutral or a clutch disengages, then as I give it gas around the corner
>>>> it
>>>> engages and powers the car. In Winky, it feels like it's slipping when
>>>> it
>>>> engages. But like I said, I'm not familiar with how a AT works -
>>>> though I'm
>>>> intimately familiar with a manual having worked on/rebuilt the one in
>>>> my
>>>> spitfire.
>>>>
>>>> > At normal acceleration10 mph is
>>>> > still first gear, but it may well be 2nd coming through a corner. If
>>>> > you
>>>> can
>>>> > determine that, or even duplicate the problem shifting manually it
>>>> > might
>>>> > help you figure out what is going on (or out). If it's second gear
>>>> > then
>>>> > perhaps an adjustment of the band would gain you some time, 'tho iirc
>>>> > it
>>>> > shouldn't really need adjustment. If it's the brake band piston I
>>>> believe
>>>> > you can refurbish that readily with the tranny in the car, however I
>>>> think
>>>> > anything you do at this point is delaying the inevitable. I guess you
>>>> have
>>>> > to decide if an attempt at a minor repair is worth the cost in effort
>>>> > to
>>>> > push back the rebuild.
>>>> > If it's slipping (in either fashion) regularly in first while
>>>> accelerating
>>>> > in a straight line I would suspect the forward clutch.
>>>>
>>>> I'm thinking that I won't need the differential - mine seems fine. I
>>>> understand that that's one way to do it and the cost is appreciably
>>>> smaller.
>>>> It doesn't look like to difficult a job pulling the trans. The other
>>>> issue
>>>> is that the engine also has a bit of a hic-up. I took it to Santa Fe
>>>> this
>>>> summer and on the way back experienced what is probably Vanagon
>>>> disease -
>>>> hesitations or "hic-ups" as one article put it. Probably an issue with
>>>> the
>>>> AFM:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.vanagonauts.com/index.phtml?catid=115
>>>>
>>>> I'm going to try the capacitor fix and see if it works. Basically, I
>>>> want
>>>> to know that the car will run OK before I put the money into the trans,
>>>> if I
>>>> can't fix the engine, I might just try to sell it in the spring and get
>>>> another one. Of course there's the old "know problems" vs. "new
>>>> problems"
>>>> philosophy. At this point I'm hoping to get by for while I try to fix
>>>> the
>>>> engine.
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>> "Winky" the '85 Westy Weekender
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@q.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> If you're resigned to having it rebuilt anyway, add a couple caps
>>>> >> full
>>>> of
>>>> >> brake fluid. Works by conditioning the rubber seals (makes them
>>>> >> swell
>>>> a
>>>> >> bit). Don't add more than that little bit.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Karl Wolz
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> |-----Original Message-----
>>>> >> |From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]
>>>> >> |On Behalf Of Daniel Rotblatt
>>>> >> |Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:01 AM
>>>> >> |To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>> >> |Subject: Re: vanagon trans slipping
>>>> >> |
>>>> >> |Eh... I drained some ATF and added the same amount of Lucas
>>>> >> |ATF stuff. The trans is still slipping, maybe a slight bit
>>>> >> |better, but that may be hopeful thinking. Seems to slip
>>>> >> |sometimes when slowly speeding up at low speeds - around 10
>>>> >> |MPH - and sometimes more on turns (maybe right turns?).
>>>> >> |General shifting seems slow as well, but I'm now worried about
>>>> >> |it so I'm really focused on it. Certainly not as smooth as my
>>>> >> |'06 Tacoma.
>>>> >> |
>>>> >> |Dan
>>>> >> |Los Angeles, CA
>>>> >> |"Winky" the '85 Westy Weekender
>>>> >> |
>>>> >> |On Oct 25, 2011, at 9:33 AM, <mkriley@fuse.net> wrote:
>>>> >> |
>>>> >> |> did it work?
>>>> >> |> mike
>>>> >> |> <Re: vanagon trans slipping.eml>
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>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Cya,
>>>> > Robert
>>>> >
>>>> > '87 & '86 Auto GLs
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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