Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:54:57 -0700
Reply-To: Annie <lsandrsn@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Annie <lsandrsn@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: vanagon trans slipping
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Right on the shifter lever.
Take off the cover - the bolts are under the edge of the carpet. If you want
it out of the way completely, you'll have to remove the handle/knob from the
lever to get the cover over the shaft. I just left it. It moves out of the
way enough to work around it.
*Thanks, ~Annie* email: lsandrsn@gmail.com
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Daniel Rotblatt <d.rotblatt@verizon.net>wrote:
> Annie,
>
> That sounds like something easy to try....where the heck is neutral safety
> switch located? Couldn't find it in a quick look at Bantleys. I looked on
> Van Cafe and got a pic of it:
>
> http://www.van-cafe.com/home/van/search?keywords=neutral+safety+switch
>
> Dan
> Los Angeles, CA
> "Winky" the '85 Westy Weekender
>
> On Oct 25, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Annie wrote:
>
> Daniel,
>
> Not sure if it's of any help to you but when my AT was doing something very
> similar, it was the neutral safety switch. It was not making full contact
> and was slipping around on the lever.
>
> I cleaned and tightened it up and it's working perfectly since. No slipping
> issues and no starting issues (I was also having issues starting the van
> sometimes, but it started out exactly like yours).
>
> *Thanks, ~Annie* email: lsandrsn@gmail.com
>
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Daniel Rotblatt <d.rotblatt@verizon.net>wrote:
>
>> Robert,
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Robert Fisher wrote:
>>
>> > Or you might try Seafoam TransTune. When you say "slipping", do you mean
>> > that engine RPMs increase without an increase in speed, or it delays
>> > changing gear and winds out the engine?
>>
>> By slipping I mean an increase in the RPM's for a moment before going into
>> gear (i.e. no increase in speed/power). It's not all the time.
>>
>> > I haven't paid attention myself to what gear the tranny goes into when
>> > slowing into and accelerating out of a turn.
>>
>> Not too familiar with AT. From the feel on any automatic car I would say
>> that normally when coasting or braking around a corner the AT goes into
>> neutral or a clutch disengages, then as I give it gas around the corner it
>> engages and powers the car. In Winky, it feels like it's slipping when it
>> engages. But like I said, I'm not familiar with how a AT works - though I'm
>> intimately familiar with a manual having worked on/rebuilt the one in my
>> spitfire.
>>
>> > At normal acceleration10 mph is
>> > still first gear, but it may well be 2nd coming through a corner. If you
>> can
>> > determine that, or even duplicate the problem shifting manually it might
>> > help you figure out what is going on (or out). If it's second gear then
>> > perhaps an adjustment of the band would gain you some time, 'tho iirc it
>> > shouldn't really need adjustment. If it's the brake band piston I
>> believe
>> > you can refurbish that readily with the tranny in the car, however I
>> think
>> > anything you do at this point is delaying the inevitable. I guess you
>> have
>> > to decide if an attempt at a minor repair is worth the cost in effort to
>> > push back the rebuild.
>> > If it's slipping (in either fashion) regularly in first while
>> accelerating
>> > in a straight line I would suspect the forward clutch.
>>
>> I'm thinking that I won't need the differential - mine seems fine. I
>> understand that that's one way to do it and the cost is appreciably smaller.
>> It doesn't look like to difficult a job pulling the trans. The other issue
>> is that the engine also has a bit of a hic-up. I took it to Santa Fe this
>> summer and on the way back experienced what is probably Vanagon disease -
>> hesitations or "hic-ups" as one article put it. Probably an issue with the
>> AFM:
>>
>> http://www.vanagonauts.com/index.phtml?catid=115
>>
>> I'm going to try the capacitor fix and see if it works. Basically, I want
>> to know that the car will run OK before I put the money into the trans, if I
>> can't fix the engine, I might just try to sell it in the spring and get
>> another one. Of course there's the old "know problems" vs. "new problems"
>> philosophy. At this point I'm hoping to get by for while I try to fix the
>> engine.
>>
>> Dan
>> Los Angeles, CA
>> "Winky" the '85 Westy Weekender
>>
>>
>> >
>> >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@q.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> If you're resigned to having it rebuilt anyway, add a couple caps full
>> of
>> >> brake fluid. Works by conditioning the rubber seals (makes them swell
>> a
>> >> bit). Don't add more than that little bit.
>> >>
>> >> Karl Wolz
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> |-----Original Message-----
>> >> |From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]
>> >> |On Behalf Of Daniel Rotblatt
>> >> |Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:01 AM
>> >> |To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> >> |Subject: Re: vanagon trans slipping
>> >> |
>> >> |Eh... I drained some ATF and added the same amount of Lucas
>> >> |ATF stuff. The trans is still slipping, maybe a slight bit
>> >> |better, but that may be hopeful thinking. Seems to slip
>> >> |sometimes when slowly speeding up at low speeds - around 10
>> >> |MPH - and sometimes more on turns (maybe right turns?).
>> >> |General shifting seems slow as well, but I'm now worried about
>> >> |it so I'm really focused on it. Certainly not as smooth as my
>> >> |'06 Tacoma.
>> >> |
>> >> |Dan
>> >> |Los Angeles, CA
>> >> |"Winky" the '85 Westy Weekender
>> >> |
>> >> |On Oct 25, 2011, at 9:33 AM, <mkriley@fuse.net> wrote:
>> >> |
>> >> |> did it work?
>> >> |> mike
>> >> |> <Re: vanagon trans slipping.eml>
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cya,
>> > Robert
>> >
>> > '87 & '86 Auto GLs
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