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Date:         Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:31:50 -0700
Reply-To:     HotelWestfalia <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         HotelWestfalia <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
Subject:      Re: No start/ Yes spark  II
Comments: To: mark drillock <mdrillock@COX.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <4EAF611A.7010205@cox.net>
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I use sand paper to clean the connectors and the head where they go onto. And I use a stainless bolt, which is not a requirement. Then I put some grease on top to stop corrosion. Use 10mm socket. Zoltan

----- Original Message ----- From: "mark drillock" <mdrillock@COX.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 8:01 PM Subject: Re: No start/ Yes spark II

> You should fix the ground problem that you found with the pin 7 and 25 > ohm test. Both of those wires are supposed to be grounded by a small > bolt on top of the left cylinder head. They do not pass through any > relay. Those 2 wires are direct grounds for the ECU and should read zero > ohms between each other and between either one and engine metal. > > Since it is the ECU that turns on the FP relay and it is not doing so in > your case the ECU ground(s) could be the problem. > > Mark > > > > Skip wrote: >> The 84 Westy 1.9L is still not starting...any ideas? >> >> Further to my comments below, I tested several of the parameters listed >> in Bentley 24.20 - 24.21, disconnecting the connector to the ECU and >> using a multimeter: >> >> The one test that did not check out is the test for "Ground >> connection/control unit", 7 and 25 pins (should be 0 ohms). I tested >> 22.5 ohms. This, I suspect/perhaps, corroborates the fact that I'm not >> getting voltage at 87 pin on the fuel pump relay when I turn on the >> ignition switch. >> >> I also looked at the ignition coil voltage to FP relay. I am getting >> voltage at the black wire on the ignition coil and I am getting voltage >> at 85 pin, which means a signal is being sent to the ECU? >> >> I also checked the ground connections. All are grounded. >> >> Therefore, since 1) I'm getting spark at the plug wire, 2) the FP works >> when I jump the FP relay, and 3) the stuff above, that for some reason, >> the injectors are not getting the correct signal to spray fuel. Is there >> an electrical test for this? Is this pointing to the ECU not giving the >> correct signal back to the 87 pin on the FP relay? I've ruled out the >> hall sensor since I'm getting spark. >> >> Would anyone care to offer corrections/suggestions to my logic and/or >> offer suggestions for replacement items? Is it an electrical connection >> issue or a device issue? >> >> Again, when turning on the ignition switch (key to acc), the FP does >> not activate. When jumping the FP relay, the FP runs but the van will >> still not start. This is where I think the fuel injectors are not >> spraying fuel. If so, then why/what is not happening in the electrical >> signals that is resulting in the fuel injectors not spraying fuel? I >> have 2/5's tank of fuel (premium). >> >> Thanks for giving it a shot. >> >> Skip Laubach >> Elgin, IL >> >> >


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