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Date:         Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:35:06 -0500
Reply-To:     Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
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From:         Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: Stuck cylinders
Comments: To: HotelWestfalia <zolo@foxinternet.net>
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There is no way to remove the rods and/or the pistons before removing the cylinders. My idea is to put the piston at BDC and using your method of placing a long piece of 2X4 into the cylinder, lever the cylinder a little up/down/sideways to loosen the cylinder in the case. It would be best if the case was bolted to an engine stand for stability while attempting to rock the cyls free. A good penetrant applied liberally will help greatly . Heating the case a bit using a propane torch will also help free it up.

Mike B.

-----Original Message----- From: HotelWestfalia Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 12:07 PM To: Mike ; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Re: Stuck cylinders

I'm sorry, it's my mistake misreading it. My mind was automatically recalling my experience that was clearly not the same. But I can only see some banging with this too. If the pistons are out, one can reach the bottom of the cylinders from the other side, I think. The case can take a little damage that can be smoothened out later. I havn't seen a block without pistons and full of cylinders. That's probably I wrote my story. Good luck with it, Zoltan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2011 7:25 AM Subject: Re: Stuck cylinders

> He said 'cylinders stuck in the case', not 'pistons stuck in the > cylinders'. > > Mike B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: HotelWestfalia > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 9:20 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Stuck cylinders > > I had two engines with all the four stuck and managed to free them all. > WD40, banging on a 2x4 on the piston going inwards while the crank was > turned with a long breaker bar. You can beat on any of the pistons as > hard > as you want. The 2x4 just fits in the liner. > You can turn it forward and backward when it starts moving a little, just > to > use some more penetrant or oil. But make sure, you have cleaned and oiled > and sandpapered the free areas, so when it is time to slide there, it is a > free ride. > No need to heat, really. > Zoltan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Felder" <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 4:39 PM > Subject: Re: Stuck cylinders > > >>I just can't imagine what would be wrong that some judicious beatings with >> a rubber mallet could not cure. Could you heat the block with a torch in >> the area of the sleeve skirt? >> >> Jim >> >> On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 5:48 PM, ralph meyermann >> <ralphmeyermann@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> My favorite penetration oil is KROIL!! Its freed up a bunch of >>> stuck/rusty >>> rotating assemblies! >>> >>> Velma 82diesel 1.6 na westy >>> >>> On Nov 11, 2011 2:57 PM, "Kenneth Lewis" <kdlewis@northstate.net> wrote: >>> >>> Still have not been able to free two piston cylinders stuck in the >>> block >>> (2.1L). >>> >>> Any tricks to non-destructively extricate them? I have tried several >>> impact based motivation to no avail. >>> TIA, >>> Ken >>> >>> PS have you $een this?!? http://tinyurl.com/bmggj93 $2,700 for P&Cs! >>> >> >


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