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Date:         Fri, 25 Nov 2011 19:27:31 -0800
Reply-To:     Evan Mac Donald <evanm@ATT.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Evan Mac Donald <evanm@ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Advice request; 1986 Vanagon automatic
In-Reply-To:  <C14AC218F89D4FADABEE4F68837C02C5@Artwin>
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I have had my '85 auto trans 7 passenger van since '96, and have put over 150k miles on it in the time since I put it on the road. As to the auto trans. It is in general stronger and less trouble than the manual. You do lose some at highway criuse, because there is no overdrive, but the convienence of not "rowing" the darned thing in town usually makes up for it. Depends on your driving uses. In the first 12 years of my '85's life with me, it was foremost my daily driver - lots of around-town, in-traffic stuff. Autos are usually easier on the engine, too, because the engine winds up to speed, and then stays there. Relatively steady speeds, and loads. Abrupt or sudden changes in speed and load wear things out faster. Not a big deal, but over time it makes a difference. My Butternut has over 150K miles on that rebuilt engine, and it still doesn't burn any oil. Or leak any, come to think of it. I continue to be amazed at that... I did discover an odd weakness in the auto transmissions, and none of the trans shops that I went to had even heard of this problem, let alone had advice for repairs! There is a steel plug on the trans, that is used to block off one end of a manufacturing bore. It is in a shallow depression on the top front of the trans, and will collecct dirt in that depression. Then, it will rust. Then leak. I chased that leak for over 5 years, never finding it, just fixing all the other seals on the trans instead, until I found it by accident one afternoon, thinking I needed to change the trans cooler, and doing wiring upgrades. What a PIA! I used a steel freeze plug to block it back off, after removing the remains of the old plug. It did the trick. I won't need to worry for probably another 20 years, now. I put 15" Audi alloy wheels on it in 2002, and did not regret it a bit. The ride improved, the handling improved. Safe tire choices opened up by a large margin, also. But, as long as you have correctly rated tires - not just "good enuf" - the 14" will serve just fine. They will not be cheap, though.  Evan Mac Donald "...in the absence of facts, myth rushes in, the kudzu of history." -Stacy Schiff ________________________________ From: Art <awa0330@GMAIL.COM> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Sent: Fri, November 25, 2011 7:12:22 PM Subject: Advice request; 1986 Vanagon automatic Hi all, I’m not an experienced Vanagon owner...yet.  I’m investigating a 1986 Vanagon with 108,000 miles on it.  If I buy it, I’ll probably replace the fridge with an electric model from GoWesty. This unit has the built in stove and fridge.  My plan is to take a couple of months and simply travel around.  I have 3 questions that I’d love some help with; It’s an automatic.  should I run like hell?  I haven’t found any serious warning signs on bogs or in research so far. Many recommend upgrading from 14” wheels & tires to larger.  It’s a heck of an expense.  Any thoughts? AC has been disconnected because it is barely adequate anyhow.  I seem to see that this is a condition of these units.  any solutions other than simply dealing with the lack of AC that makes sense? Thanks in advance for your help! Art.


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