Date:         Sat, 10 Dec 2011 17:59:22 -0800
Reply-To:     Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: VDO oil sender with untapered threads?
Comments: To: Ken Lewis <kdlewis@northstate.net>
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Ken -

Part Number and components look like a Stewart Warner Kit, just
speculating of course, you see these with AutoMeter and other brands,
even VDO has one too.

All VW Air Cooled including Type 4 engines were a 1k tapered metric
thread for their Idiot Light Senders.  The Water Cooled (inline and
boxer) used regular threads with the washer on stock senders.  But VDO
has always a tapered "K" on their electric accessory pressure senders.

I've never used the mechanical tube style kits because there is too
much time lag on the pressure reading from the engine to the gauge on
REAR mounted VW engines.  They work great on FRONT mounted engines
because the tubing is relatively short, less time lag.  Had one of
these on a Toyota PU and a 66 Mustang though.....
-- Jim Thompson84 GL 1.9 "Gloria"84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"72 411
Station Wagon "Pug"75 914 1.8 "Nancy"Full Timing Since March
1999oldvolkshome@gmail.comhttp://www.oldvolkshome.comFind me on
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Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Ken Lewis <kdlewis@northstate.net>
wrote:
> Good job Jim. I found some adapters in my parts bin which allowed me to
> remote mount the alien technology(NPT sender). Something like this:
> http://tinyurl.com/co29nax  originally used to hook up an oil pressure
> gauge.
>
> Ken
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Old Volks Home" <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [VANAGON] VDO oil sender with untapered threads?
>
>
>
> Wes -
>
> Did a bit of research in my reference library of VDO stuff back into
> the 70s.  My July 86 and May 87 VDO Catalogs are the best when
> comparing senders and their specs.  It is true the all VDO Pressure
> Senders with 10mm Threads (1mm Pitch) are of the 1K style, which is
> tapered. They do (or did) make a 12mm x 1.5 or 14mm x 1.5 Pressure
> Sender, but were not tapered.  Must be a good reason why.  Probably
> for better sealing without the washer.  Problem with that is
> over-torquing and cracking the metal it's being screwed into, but I've
> used the 10mm 1K style for decades without a problem (yet).  Just
> remember not to use sealing tape on the threads or it won't properly
> ground.
>
> I further verified it in my 1997 VDO Catalog which is harder to comb
> through to find this info.  I wish they would keep it simple :(
> --
> Jim Thompson
> 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria"
> 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
> 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug"
> 75 914 1.8 "Nancy"
> Full Timing Since March 1999
> oldvolkshome@gmail.com
> http://www.oldvolkshome.com
> Find me on Facebook:
> http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Thompson/100000710343835
> ***********************************
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:19 PM, pickle vanagon <greenvanagon@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I would have thought so too, but I checked that it is indeed sold as M10
>> threads. The designation is M10x1k, and from what I've gathered the 1k
>> stands for "keg" which is apparently a german tapered thread designation.
>> (The "keg" style threads are referenced here, under the Metric section:
>> http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/thread-standards-d_776.html)
>>
>> After searching around some, I'm getting the impression that all the VDO
>> M10 threads are actually M10x1k tapered threads...
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Ken Lewis <kdlewis@northstate.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Wes,
>>> Most likely NOT metric threads if it's tapered.
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "pickle vanagon" <
>>> greenvanagon@GMAIL.COM>
>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 6:52 PM
>>> Subject: [VANAGON] VDO oil sender with untapered threads?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I ordered an M10 threaded VDO oil sender, and was a little disappointed
>>> to
>>>>
>>>> find that it has *tapered* M10 threads, unlike the VW sender which uses
>>>> standard threads and a sealing washer. Does anybody now if the VDO
>>>> sender
>>>> comes in a version with standard M10 threads and a sealing washer,
>>>> instead
>>>> of tapered threads?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Wes