Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 10:11:09 -0600
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From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET>
Subject: Re: Ford Galaxy Friday
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---- Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> I think there are a number of forces preventing Diesels from being popular here. Things are getting worse as the price of Diesel is often more than gasoline and that trend will get even worse with the increasing requirements to clean the fuel up. Being in the Northeast I would hate to have to heat my house with fuel oil. My son just bought a new Jetta and try as may I was not able to convince him to go TDI. The upcharge and his desire for speed had him choose the GLI. From experience with motorhome if I get another one it will probably be gas. The increased maintenance costs of the Diesel have been painful. A major problem in the US with auto Diesels in the increased emissions. From 2004 to 2007 new ones were illegal here in NY due to the emissions. So why would manufacturers develop a vehicle that may not even be allowed? As hybrid technology goes down in cost I think that will be >the major player in the fuel economy war.
I agree that hybrids will be the way to go. I drive one because of the fuel savings and cleanliness. But, diesel fuel can be cleaned so that it is quite good. Considering the difference in fuel use of these small diesel engines versus gasoline, how do the emissions actually compare? I have never understood why tailpipe emission is measured as it is, pollution as a fraction of the exhaust gas, anyway. That means that spewing mega quantities of pollutant is ok so long as the engine is big enough. If your vehicle is spewing out 0.2 units per liter, while mine is issuing 0.1 units per liter, but yours puts out 1 liter for every 3 of mine, then yours is cleaner, despite the greater fractional contribution. If measured on the basis of pollutants per mile driven, rather than as a fraction of exhaust gas, then we might get somewhere.
mcneely
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> Dennis
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dave Mcneely
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:02 PM
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> Subject: Re: Ford Galaxy Friday
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> take a look here at the mpg figures. Why, why, why can't we get some sense here in the U.S.? mcneely
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> http://greenautochoice.com/cmp/minivan-cmp-chrys-01.htm
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> ---- "fonman4277@comcast.net" <fonman4277@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
> > Folks, I am sitting in traffic behind a Ford Galaxy minivan. I've never seen anything like it, and it has a TDI badge on the back. not a model I've ever seen before here in the united states, it has virginia tags, not diplomatic plates. It does not appear to be brand new, as it has the typical parking lot door dings on the sides.
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