Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:51:23 -0700
Reply-To: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@Q.COM>
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From: Karl Wolz <wolzphoto@Q.COM>
Subject: Re: Diesels
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Been driving in AZ since 1970 and have never had emissions cost more than the test itself other than having to finally break down and install a converter with innards. Does tick me off about the annual diesel testing though.
Karl Wolz
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On Jan 21, 2012, at 5:21 PM, David M <covrambles@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Here in AZ, diesels have to be emission tested every year whereas gasoline cars only have to be tested every two years. That is enough to dissuade me from ever getting a diesel. If your vehicle fails the emission test, you can be in for significant bills. I'ts not unusual to have to spend $1000 to get a car thru emissions.
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> -David
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> Sat, 1/21/12, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Re: Ford Galaxy Friday
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Date: Saturday, January 21, 2012, 5:58 AM
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> I think there are a number of forces preventing Diesels from being popular here. Things are getting worse as the price of Diesel is often more than gasoline and that trend will get even worse with the increasing requirements to clean the fuel up. Being in the Northeast I would hate to have to heat my house with fuel oil. My son just bought a new Jetta and try as may I was not able to convince him to go TDI. The upcharge and his desire for speed had him choose the GLI. From experience with motorhome if I get another one it will probably be gas. The increased maintenance costs of the Diesel have been painful. A major problem in the US with auto Diesels in the increased emissions. From 2004 to 2007 new ones were illegal here in NY due to the emissions. So why would manufacturers develop a vehicle that may not even be allowed? As hybrid technology goes down in cost I think that will be the major player in the fuel economy war.
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> Dennis
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dave Mcneely
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 5:02 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Ford Galaxy Friday
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> take a look here at the mpg figures. Why, why, why can't we get some sense here in the U.S.? mcneely
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> http://greenautochoice.com/cmp/minivan-cmp-chrys-01.htm
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> ---- "fonman4277@comcast.net" <fonman4277@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
>> Folks, I am sitting in traffic behind a Ford Galaxy minivan. I've never seen anything like it, and it has a TDI badge on the back. not a model I've ever seen before here in the united states, it has virginia tags, not diplomatic plates. It does not appear to be brand new, as it has the typical parking lot door dings on the sides.
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> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
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> David McNeely
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