Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 13:05:43 -0800
Reply-To: "John C..." <yacoltyayhoo@GMAIL.COM>
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From: "John C..." <yacoltyayhoo@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: couple of abrasive recommendations
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Hi all,
Ive used probably thousands of the flap drums in my 40 + years in machine
shops.
But mostly applicable to my work on landing gear ID hyd cylinder parts.
haven't tried the first Enduro one but many of the other types though.
Oddly, I have two or three orbital air, hand sanders
The type body & fender and paint shops use:
http://www.wayfair.com/Ingersoll-Rand-Ultra-Duty-Vacuum-Ready-Two-Handed-Random-Orbital-Sander-4151-5-4151-5-IRC2387.html?refid=GPA49-IRC2387&gclid=CJqdkOSD8a0CFWkbQgodoiD7sQ
But, always seem to go back to a little Sears Craftsman palm, Random Orbit
Sander;
I bought to sand wood with.
I find that I get a much flatter, smoother finish with this palm sander.
I do have to spray contact glue the body&fender sanding discs I have onto
it though.
but can whip through a door in just a few minutes 10-15.
I buy the sanding discs by the roll.
I don't remove the discs each time
but let them stack up a bit before removing.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00927675000P?blockNo=9&blockType=G9&prdNo=9&i_cntr=1327695527132
It is an electric sander so you don't want to wet or dry sand with water
(of course ;o)
but I go over the machine sanding with a wet hand sanding job.
your really don't want to get the finish too smooth.
today's first coat filler primer cover up a lot of imperfections
and they need a bit of a rougher surface to attach to.
But, I find that I get a much flatter finish with the palm sander.
Of course, the longer the sander the flatter the finish
and I've used reciprocating, 18" flat sanders on the larger rear quarter
panels for instance.
a little story on that:
I bought a reciprocating sander at Harbor freight on one of their half off
sales.
I think I ended up paying $26.
The lady at the check out counter wanted to know if I wanted the extended
2yr. warranty.
I asked how much that was and she told me; $26.00 !!!???
I grinned and just said to her:
I'll just take another one.
and I did.
10 years ago and I'm still on the first one.
On my bus, I used Sherwin Williams automobile paint
In a pearl / clear coat, and would Not recommend this paint
to anyone unless they have all of their equipment
set up for it and a lot of experience using it.
http://www.kodakgallery.com/gallery/creativeapps/slideShow/Main.jsp;jsessionid=4DA333487444562E7C1A1FEEB696B5AB.ecom304_main?sourceId=533754321803&cm_mmc=Share-_-Personal-_-Email-_-Sharee-_-Images&_requestid=200169
These days I use DuPont.
Pretty much fool proof.
( Jes watt th' doctor ordered !!! :o)
as always Mr. Felps YMMV....
best,
JC...
"Wait till the sun shines, Nellie,
When the clouds go drifting by,
We will be happy, Nellie,
Don't you sigh.
Down Lover's Lane we'll wander,
Sweethearts you and I.
Wait till the sun shines, Nellie,
Bye and bye."
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> I can only guess as I have not tried it. But I'd say yes as the enduro
> flex wheels are great at shaping aluminium and stainless. I'd say spot work
> only with these discs though. I can't say if the flap drums would work, but
> again they are pretty good on ss/aluminium.
>
>
> alistair
>
>
> On 2012-01-27, at 10:34 AM, Jim Felder wrote:
>
> > Are any of these good for removing paint? That is my next vanagon
> project, now that I'm sporting a new engine and soon to be sporting a new,
> stainless steel OEM style sink drain. Oh, and sporting a new toaster made
> out of a tin can.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > I sent this to another list I'm subscribed to, but maybe some folks here
> might find it useful.
> >
> > For the past few weeks I have been helping a welder/fabricator with the
> assembly of some data collection bouys. I was prepping for welds and
> cleaning up surfaces after welding (mostly aluminium). Apart from being
> impressed at how good this guy can weld (mix of tig and mig), what really
> was an eye opener were some of the Walter brand abrasive discs/drums.
> >
> > - Enduro - Flex wheels - pretty amazing. Controllable abrasive action,
> don't load up, last a long time
> >
> http://www.walter.com/Walter/en-ca/abrasives/blending-abrasives/angle-grinders-stainless-aluminum/enduro-flex
> > this wheel is on my shopping list, I fell in love with it :)
> >
> > - Coolcut - flap drums - again controllable and don't load up.
> >
> http://www.walter.com/Walter/en-ca/abrasives/line-finishing/drum-sanders-drums/coolcut
> >
> > - Blendex - surface conditioning drums. I think I have the right product
> name here. Drum made up of a scotchbrite pad type material. Great for the
> brushed/satin finish.
> >
> http://www.walter.com/Walter/en-ca/abrasives/line-finishing/drum-sanders-drums/blendex
> >
> >
> > I'm not trying to be a shill for Walter, just impressed at how much work
> they did and how well they performed. Oh, btw, the were used on a range of
> angle grinders, 4 1/2" - 7".
> >
> > alistair
> >
>
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