Date:         Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:58:15 -0600
Reply-To:     James Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         James Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: couple of abrasive recommendations
Comments: To: "John C..." <yacoltyayhoo@GMAIL.COM>
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Good info. 

Jim



On Jan 27, 2012, at 3:05 PM, "John C..." <yacoltyayhoo@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Ive used probably thousands of the flap drums in my 40 + years in machine
> shops.
> But mostly applicable to my work on landing gear ID hyd cylinder parts.
> haven't tried the first Enduro one but many of the other types though.
> 
> Oddly, I have two or three orbital air, hand sanders
> The type body & fender and paint shops use:
> http://www.wayfair.com/Ingersoll-Rand-Ultra-Duty-Vacuum-Ready-Two-Handed-Random-Orbital-Sander-4151-5-4151-5-IRC2387.html?refid=GPA49-IRC2387&gclid=CJqdkOSD8a0CFWkbQgodoiD7sQ
> 
> But, always seem to go back to a little Sears Craftsman palm, Random Orbit

> Sander;
> I bought to sand wood with.
> I find that I get a much flatter, smoother finish with this palm sander.
> I do have to spray contact glue the body&fender sanding discs I have onto
> it though.
> but can whip through a door in just a few minutes 10-15.
> I buy the sanding discs by the roll.
> I don't remove the discs each time
> but let them stack up a bit before removing.
> http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00927675000P?blockNo=9&blockType=G9&prdNo=9&i_cntr=1327695527132
> 
> It is an electric sander so you don't want to wet or dry sand with water
> (of course ;o)
> but I go over the machine sanding with a wet hand sanding job.
> your really don't want to get the finish too smooth.
> today's first coat filler primer cover up a lot of imperfections
> and they need a bit of a rougher surface to attach to.
> 
> But, I find that I get a much flatter finish with the palm sander.
> Of course, the longer the sander the flatter the finish
> and I've used reciprocating, 18" flat sanders on the larger rear quarter
> panels for instance.
> a little story on that:
> I bought  a reciprocating sander at Harbor freight on one of their half off
> sales.
> I think I ended up paying $26.
> The lady at the check out counter wanted to know if I wanted the extended
> 2yr. warranty.
> I asked how much that was and she told me; $26.00 !!!???
> I grinned and just said to her:
> I'll just take another one.
> and I did.
> 10 years ago and I'm still on the first one.
> 
> On my bus, I used Sherwin Williams automobile paint
> In a pearl / clear coat, and would Not recommend this paint
> to anyone unless they have all of their equipment
> set up for it and a lot of experience using it.
> 
> 
> http://www.kodakgallery.com/gallery/creativeapps/slideShow/Main.jsp;jsessionid=4DA333487444562E7C1A1FEEB696B5AB.ecom304_main?sourceId=533754321803&cm_mmc=Share-_-Personal-_-Email-_-Sharee-_-Images&_requestid=200169
> 
> These days I use DuPont.
> Pretty much fool proof.
> ( Jes watt th' doctor ordered !!!  :o)
> 
> as always Mr. Felps YMMV....
> 
> best,
> JC...
> 
> "Wait till the sun shines, Nellie,
> When the clouds go drifting by,
> We will be happy, Nellie,
> Don't you sigh.
> Down Lover's Lane we'll wander,
> Sweethearts you and I.
> Wait till the sun shines, Nellie,
> Bye and bye."
> 
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
> 
>> I can only guess as I have not tried it. But I'd say yes as the enduro
>> flex wheels are great at shaping aluminium and stainless. I'd say spot work
>> only with these discs though. I can't say if the flap drums would work, but
>> again they are pretty good on ss/aluminium.
>> 
>> 
>> alistair
>> 
>> 
>> On 2012-01-27, at 10:34 AM, Jim Felder wrote:
>> 
>>> Are any of these good for removing paint? That is my next vanagon
>> project, now that I'm sporting a new engine and soon to be sporting a new,
>> stainless steel OEM style sink drain. Oh, and sporting a new toaster made

>> out of a tin can.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>> I sent this to another list I'm subscribed to, but maybe some folks here

>> might find it useful.
>>> 
>>> For the past few weeks I have been helping a welder/fabricator with the
>> assembly of some data collection bouys. I was prepping for welds and
>> cleaning up surfaces after welding (mostly aluminium). Apart from being
>> impressed at how good this guy can weld (mix of tig and mig), what really

>> was an eye opener were some of the Walter brand abrasive discs/drums.
>>> 
>>> - Enduro - Flex wheels - pretty amazing. Controllable abrasive action,
>> don't load up, last a long time
>>> 
>> http://www.walter.com/Walter/en-ca/abrasives/blending-abrasives/angle-grinders-stainless-aluminum/enduro-flex
>>> this wheel is on my shopping list, I fell in love with it :)
>>> 
>>> - Coolcut - flap drums - again controllable and don't load up.
>>> 
>> http://www.walter.com/Walter/en-ca/abrasives/line-finishing/drum-sanders-drums/coolcut
>>> 
>>> - Blendex - surface conditioning drums. I think I have the right product

>> name here. Drum made up of a scotchbrite pad type material. Great for the

>> brushed/satin finish.
>>> 
>> http://www.walter.com/Walter/en-ca/abrasives/line-finishing/drum-sanders-drums/blendex
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm not trying to be a shill for Walter, just impressed at how much work

>> they did and how well they performed. Oh, btw, the were used on a range of
>> angle grinders, 4 1/2" - 7".
>>> 
>>> alistair
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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