Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 17:09:51 -0600
Reply-To: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Vanagon? Really? Gasoline vs. Diesel-again.
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I have, in addition to my diesel westy NA, a 91 EcoDiesel turbo Jetta. It
is an interesting car because the engine runs so lean that a catalytic
converter can be used with it. The result is not much more power than the
NA—a little—but it runs very clean. It gets 40 mpgs no matter how or where
I drive it. I know it would do better with a regular turbo injection pump
and a different exhaust, but I like the clean aspect of it.
I like everything about the car, pretty much, except the @#$% &$%&* &^&$%#
@###$%#$ $$%^% %&* $&*^*^&* $%&%T*&*(&*^*& %&^&* belt system (it has AC, PS
and was designed by #$%^&$#$). I sometimes feel like parting out everything
but the engine and putting it in my Westy.
Anybody ever done that, and kept the cat?
Jim
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>wrote:
> I had an '88 560 SEL. Yea 18 on the highway was about right. 12-14 around
> town. I ran it on regular and never had a problem. Never even felt a
> difference when treating it to premium. My wife has a '98 Audi A8 with the
> 4.2L, 5 valve/cylinder and Quattro. This thing does an easy 27-28 on the
> high and 22-23 around town. I only get 30-31 highway in my 88 Fox.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Tom Hargrave
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 4:37 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Vanagon? Really? Gasoline vs. Diesel-again.
>
> Now that's a good "apples to apples" diesel verses gas comparison.
>
> Another one is with Mercedes S class, of which I've owned several. A 1986
> 420SEL is rated 15 MPG in town, 18 MPG Highway and also burns premium gas
> only. My same year, same body 300SDL diesel got 22 MPG city and 25 MPG
> highway.
>
> I would expect the same mileage ratio in a diesel verses gas Vanagon and is
> something to consider when doing a conversion.
>
> Thanks, Tom Hargrave
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of
> ralph meyermann
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 1:47 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Vanagon? Really? Gasoline vs. Diesel-again.
>
> We once had Identical f350 dialogs other than 460ci gasser and the other
> 7.3L powerstroke empty the gasser got 12-13 mpg the diesel 16mpg avg of
> both
> with the same load the gasser dropped to 6 mpg and needed downshifting on a
> long hill the diesel was getting 12mpg and not needing to downshift on the
> same hill there are advantages of a turbo diesel,not as much of mpg loss
> with heavier loads and less downshifts!!
>
> Velma 82diesel 1.6 na westy
>
> On Jan 22, 2012 1:11 PM, "Mike Riley" <mkriley@fuse.net> wrote:
>
> this is mostly due to one man BOB LUTZ !
> when vw held the highest residual value of any car make due to the tdi,
> he gave a long speech on why diesels would not be viable here. These
> CEO's with their outdated "visions" are screwing it up for everybody.
> mike
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