Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 07:35:42 -0500
Reply-To: Antony P Marsh <apetermarsh@ME.COM>
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From: Antony P Marsh <apetermarsh@ME.COM>
Subject: Re: Vanagon? Really? Gasoline vs. Diesel-again.
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The best we ever did in our (then new) 87 Vanagon in 88 was a solid average of 18.5 mpg on a round trip from Omaha NE to Victoria Vancouver Island. A great trip - of course the Syncro was about 14 months old and everything still worked. Unlike my 87 Syncro now which is in pieces and my 91 GL - which is slowly getting there.
Our 2005 Beetle tdi is a great town car and on regular trips to Ft Lauderdale across Alligator Alley - locked cruise at 60 mph it will get 53 mpg. At this speed I must confess to being almost run over by ALL other drivers doing well over my "economy check" speed. Trouble is - all the "bits" that fail due to bad plastic or design. Both headlights have lost their lens as the glue melts in the equator heat. The the master door lock control has broken one side of the switch, tail light assembly melted - lots of other small aggravating stupid junk. But the tdi is flawless - my big mouth - let's see what Murphy has in store for me.
Peter Marsh
Naples FL
On Jan 22, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Chris S. wrote:
> 2001 Beetle TDI, 5 speed manual. 47 MPG during my Atlanta commute. 52 MPG at a steady 60 mph. 47 MPG at a steady 70 mph. 40 MPG at a steady 80 mph.
>
> Those figures are safely 50% or higher than a gas New Beetle of similar vintage.
>
> Chris.
>
> Wysłane z iPhone'a
>
> Dnia Jan 22, 2012 o godz. 16:36 Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET> napisał(a):
>
>> Now that's a good "apples to apples" diesel verses gas comparison.
>>
>> Another one is with Mercedes S class, of which I've owned several. A 1986
>> 420SEL is rated 15 MPG in town, 18 MPG Highway and also burns premium gas
>> only. My same year, same body 300SDL diesel got 22 MPG city and 25 MPG
>> highway.
>>
>> I would expect the same mileage ratio in a diesel verses gas Vanagon and is
>> something to consider when doing a conversion.
>>
>> Thanks, Tom Hargrave
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>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of
>> ralph meyermann
>> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 1:47 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Vanagon? Really? Gasoline vs. Diesel-again.
>>
>> We once had Identical f350 dialogs other than 460ci gasser and the other
>> 7.3L powerstroke empty the gasser got 12-13 mpg the diesel 16mpg avg of both
>> with the same load the gasser dropped to 6 mpg and needed downshifting on a
>> long hill the diesel was getting 12mpg and not needing to downshift on the
>> same hill there are advantages of a turbo diesel,not as much of mpg loss
>> with heavier loads and less downshifts!!
>>
>> Velma 82diesel 1.6 na westy
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2012 1:11 PM, "Mike Riley" <mkriley@fuse.net> wrote:
>>
>> this is mostly due to one man BOB LUTZ !
>> when vw held the highest residual value of any car make due to the tdi,
>> he gave a long speech on why diesels would not be viable here. These
>> CEO's with their outdated "visions" are screwing it up for everybody.
>> mike
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