Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:15:00 -0800
Reply-To: neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From: neil n <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Fixed my Honda, Thought: Honda 2.4 I-VTEC Engine into Vanagon?
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On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans
<scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> Hi ,
> Neil, Honda's being right hand drive has nothing to do with engine rotation
> direction,
> however, it does seem logical that the engine rotates the same direction as
> the front wheels, in a FWD vehicle with sideways mounted engine.
> the Ring & Pinion gears can be built for either direction of rotation.
> oe juar in transmission design.
> I wonder if you read that or just made it up.;
Why would I make something up?
I assume your comment was "off the cuff" humour. I mean really. I do
my best not to make things up. ;)
Can't find the web page commenting on RH drive Hondas and drivetrain
orientation. Maybe I should have given that info more thought. That
said, IIRC, what I read suggested that on a RH drive Honda, since
steering linkage etc. was located on the RH side of vehicle (POV of
driver facing forward), Honda located engine on LH side. Then again,
of the 2 older LH drive Honda Civics I've owned, the engine was in
front of driver. My Haynes #633 shows same. I don't know if these
Civics were made as RH drive vehicles in Japan. For these LH drive NA
vehicles, maybe Honda adapted steering etc. to fit the drivetrain as
mounted? (this might explain how on a mid-late 70's Civic, the
passenger can depress the gas pedal linkage from the passenger side.
Really! Try it! It will totally freak out the driver! Do so at your
own risk!) Regardless......
> however, it does seem logical that the engine rotates the same direction as
> the front wheels, in a FWD vehicle with sideways mounted engine.
Following your comment above, a CCW rotating engine mounted as per the
older Hondas, transaxle engaged in a forward gear, the wheels would
spin the same direction as motor.
As to why the older Honda engines rotated CCW:
http://www.ehow.com/list_7516028_car-engines-rotate-anticlockwise.html
<shrugs>
But then a transverse mounted engine in the rear or front should make
no difference. e.g. a CCW rotating engine mounted on LH of vehicle,
transaxle on RH, would spin the wheels forward in either fore or aft
position.
> in fact, 'reverse' R & P gears are now made so you can use a subaru trans in
> the back of your vanogon.
Thanks. Yes. I saw D Clymers thread on thesamba Vanagon/EV forum.
That's some great stuff!
Neil.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "neil n" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Fixed my Honda, Thought: Honda 2.4 I-VTEC Engine into Vanagon?
> Hi Scott. I'm sure you know this, but one original reason the older
> Honda engines rotated CCW: they were installed in RH drive vehicles.
>
> My K series engine rotates CW
> <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>> Find out which way the engine turns first.
>> that late a Honda engine may turn 'normal clockwise.'
--
Neil n
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