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Date:         Thu, 2 Feb 2012 03:47:25 -0800
Reply-To:     BenT Syncro <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         BenT Syncro <syncro@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: How to get the tumbler out of a lock mechanism?
Comments: To: James Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <F15C825B-20BF-432A-906A-D6B7F86658E6@gmail.com>
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No reason to replace the cylinders if they are not worn. Easier to slip them in to the replacement handles.

I hate multiple keys for any vehicle. You might read in the archives that once upon a time, had 14 Vanagons at the same time. I keyed all the locks alike.

BenT

sent from my electronic leash

On Feb 2, 2012, at 3:23 AM, James Felder <jim.felder@gmail.com> wrote:

> Because of the age of my vanagon, my door handles have long been replaced with good-looking ones. I swapped the cylinders so the new handles would work with the original key. The exception was the slider, which required a unique key. I took it out and matched tumblers with a door lock and then they all worked on the same key. I have lots of nice new tumblers--I assume I could do the same with the "new" ignition, or simply swap cylinders so all would be keyed the same? > > Getting a locksmith to cut a new key is not a bad idea, though. > > Jim > > On Feb 1, 2012, at 9:08 PM, BenT Syncro <syncro@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > >> A really competent locksmith can 'decode' the lock or key and generate a new key cut by code. It won't be cheap though. Because the age of our Vanagons, there is good chance the door handle is no longer original. >> >> >> BenT >> >> sent from my electronic leash >> >> On Feb 1, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Richard Koerner <rjkinpb@SBCGLOBAL.NET> wrote: >> >>> And don't you just remove the Front Door Handle to find the key code stamped on it? Even the dealer can make a "new" key when he has the code. Thought that was the standard procedure in these cases. (Never done it myself....just referring to List Experience.) I guess this assumes Door Key and Ignition Key are the same....haven't been following thread closely enough. >>> >>> Rich >>> San Diego >>> >>> --- On Wed, 2/1/12, Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET> wrote: >>> >>> From: Tom Hargrave <thargrav@HIWAAY.NET> >>> Subject: Re: How to get the tumbler out of a lock mechanism? >>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>> Date: Wednesday, February 1, 2012, 5:19 PM >>> >>> Before going through the trouble of replacing the ignition lock cylinder I suggest taking your van over to a competent locksmith and having a key made from scratch. Then try the key in the door locks - I think you'll find that most of the time the key will work fine in all of the locks. >>> >>> Most of the time it's the key that's worn & not the lock tumbler but the key will still unlock the door because the door tumbler is not as precise as the ignition lock tumbler. >>> >>> And BTW when I say "competent locksmith" I mean someone who can cut a new key from a blank without a master, not one of these guys who just jimmy doors open for a living. You will likely have to call around to find one. The right person will have the tools to measure the lock cylinder and will likely not let you watch him work. >>> >>> Thanks, Tom Hargrave >>> www.stir-plate.com >>> www.towercooler.com >>> www.kegkits.com >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf Of BenT Syncro >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 5:06 PM >>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>> Subject: Re: How to get the tumbler out of a lock mechanism? >>> >>> Jim, >>> >>> The dash does not need to come out. I will not be near my laptop for sometime. So best I can do is describe from memory. Take the top and bottom covers from the ignition switch. Once you see the naked ignition lock system, it will be more apparent. Unless your ignition lock cylinder has been removed before, you will need to drill a small hole on the side of the cylinder barrel to be able to depress the retaining spring on the side of the lock cylinder. The Bentley does describe the spot. No need to be super precise as you only need to be able to stick a tool in there to press that flat spring. Cylinder slides out after. >>> >>> Hey, I was googling for pics of the lock cylinder and found that someone had written an article in the Samba. It's shown out of the van can be done without removal. >>> >>> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=392080 >>> >>> >>> BenT >>> >>> sent from my electronic leash >>> >>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:27 PM, Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Alistair. I know how to do the other locks, but not the >>>> ignition. I will check out the Bentley. Will have to remove all the >>>> piles of books from my table to make room for it, where I have other

>>>> Bentleys open trying to figure out how to get the heater core out of my Jetta. %^$%&* Jetta. >>>> >>>> You think a Vanagon dash is bad? >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Alistair Bell <albell@shaw.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jim, >>>>> >>>>> i have some lock info here >>>>> >>>>> http://shufti.wordpress.com/2010/03/05/lock-info/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> door locks, but might be useful in your quest. >>>>> >>>>> But Bentley, 94.2 is good place to start fig 7 on 94.4 shows where to

>>>>> drill to remove cylinder >>>>> >>>>> alistair >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2012-02-01, at 11:28 AM, Jim Felder wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Last week I wrote that I had a starting problem with the key >>>>>> sometimes >>>>> not >>>>>> starting the starter motor. I had a switch, and replaced it, but it

>>>>>> still happens (once in three days—not too bad but not fixed).

>>>>>> >>>>>> I went into my stash of Vanagon parts and found the mechanical lock

>>>>>> from >>>>> a >>>>>> 1990. >>>>>> >>>>>> Should I take the cylinder set out of my old one and put it in my >>>>>> new >>>>> one, >>>>>> or is it likely that the cylinder and brass tumblers are part of the

>>>>>> problem? >>>>>> >>>>>> I have an assortment of brand new tumblers. Should I match them up

>>>>>> until the "old" key works with the "new" lock? >>>>>> >>>>>> How do I get the tumbler out of the lock mechanism? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 2109/4779 - Release Date: 02/01/12


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