Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 08:31:04 -0800
Reply-To: Andrew Martin <ramblinvan@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Andrew Martin <ramblinvan@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: New Frydae topic? WAS: Michelin Agilis 51's for sale
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What Vanagon related subjects NOT to post to the Vanagon List?
Andrew
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Marius Strom
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 8:04 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Michelin Agilis 51's for sale
You think tires are bad to bring up in the community? Try suggesting that
you have some extra 10W30 oil for sale for other waterboxer owners to make
use of. :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Joe T.
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:41 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Michelin Agilis 51's for sale
Dear Esteemed Members of The Vanagon List House Subcommittee on Classified
Advertising and Tire Safety Regulatory Adherence,
After spending some time on the web researching my pre-owned Michelin Agilis
51 205/65R15 tires' shelf life, as well as anectdotal evidence regarding
treadwear and real-world life span, it seems to me that they're universally
considered a long-wearing, long-life tire.
Now if I lived in the desert and left the sidewalls exposed to the harmful
UV rays of the sun at all times, ran them over every rocky trail at Moab,
and shot at them randomly with my pellet gun while keeping them inflated to
only 15 PSI at all times, then I could see their safety being a major issue;
however, these ran on my lightly-loaded Wolfsburg Westy for 5000 miles and
were rotated once in that span. They were bought by me from an extremely
meticulous Syncro owner who rotated them religiously. He bought the
pristine Syncro GL upon which they were originally mounted from a
powder-coating shop owner in Oregon who used said pristine Syncro GL as a
second vehicle.
I'm not an insurance expert, nor do I claim to be. I could not find any
real linkable information regarding a uniform policy of paying out or not
paying out insurance claims based upon the age of tires, Michelin or
otherwise.
I've represented these tires as best I can, and appreciate the assistance
regarding discovery of their manufacture date and location.
I offer humble apologies that my original advertisement did not include my
location; however, as has been pointed out, my Samba ad, the one with
pictures (everybody likes pictures,) did note that I am in Denver, Colorado,
and the tires are here with me, stacked gingerly (in the industry-standard
one atop another method) my garage just to the left of my workbench and in
front of my deep-fryer. It should be noted that the deep-fryer (a Bayou
Classic 700-701) is currently out of service for the winter, so no transfer
of pontentially damaging radiant heat has occurred. Also of note is that
they are stacked in proximity to my bench grinder, but I have not used the
bench grinder since the tires' placement, and do not plan to until after
they are gone. They will be moved to a safer location should any emergency
use of my bench grinder be warranted.
While the vetting process has been thorough and at times trying, I'm
satisfied that I have met all requirements of the Subcommittee regarding
full disclosure of the condition, age, location, and use of the Michelin
Agilis 51 205/65R15 tires in my possession to the best of my knowledge and
without any nefarious intent whatsoever.
I'd like to close by saying that as a member of this venerable group for
thirteen jovial years now, I now am kicking myself squarely in the ass for
forgetting the one, unmistakable, cardinal rule of this particular faction
of the Vanagon community:
Never bring up tires. Never, ever, ever bring up tires, even if you're just
trying to unload a set because sucked in the snow, they're taking up space
in the garage, and you acted both in the hope that another Vanagon owner
could get some good use out of them and in the possibility that you can
balance the Vanagon budget a bit after dishing out precious cash for a
different set more suitable for your current needs.
Sincerely,
Joe T.
'85 Wolfsburg Westy Subie 2.2 (Brown Beige Metallic, Mftr. Date March 1985,
currently running Yokohama Geolander 215/70R15, Mftr. Date August 2011.)
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Joe T. <vanagon85@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Miguel, good information there.
>
> I wrote down every little number on one of the tires last night, but
> apparently not in any real legible way.
>
> I'll need to take a closer look now that I know what I'm looking for,
> because according to my crack code-breaking skills, these tires were
> made in 1967. Something tells me that's incorrect.
>
> --
> Joe T.
> '85 Wolfsburg Westy Subie 2.2
> Denver, Colorado, USA
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:28 PM, miguel pacheco
> <mundopacheco@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Here's a good link for determining tire manufacture date :
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=11
>>
>> Miguel
>>
>
>
>
--
Joe T.
'85 Wolfsburg Westy Subie 2.2