Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:03:46 +0000
Reply-To: Marius Strom <marstrom@MICROSOFT.COM>
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From: Marius Strom <marstrom@MICROSOFT.COM>
Subject: Re: Michelin Agilis 51's for sale
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You think tires are bad to bring up in the community? Try suggesting that you have some extra 10W30 oil for sale for other waterboxer owners to make use of. :)
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From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Joe T.
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:41 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Michelin Agilis 51's for sale
Dear Esteemed Members of The Vanagon List House Subcommittee on Classified Advertising and Tire Safety Regulatory Adherence,
After spending some time on the web researching my pre-owned Michelin Agilis 51 205/65R15 tires' shelf life, as well as anectdotal evidence regarding treadwear and real-world life span, it seems to me that they're universally considered a long-wearing, long-life tire.
Now if I lived in the desert and left the sidewalls exposed to the harmful UV rays of the sun at all times, ran them over every rocky trail at Moab, and shot at them randomly with my pellet gun while keeping them inflated to only 15 PSI at all times, then I could see their safety being a major issue; however, these ran on my lightly-loaded Wolfsburg Westy for 5000 miles and were rotated once in that span. They were bought by me from an extremely meticulous Syncro owner who rotated them religiously. He bought the pristine Syncro GL upon which they were originally mounted from a powder-coating shop owner in Oregon who used said pristine Syncro GL as a second vehicle.
I'm not an insurance expert, nor do I claim to be. I could not find any real linkable information regarding a uniform policy of paying out or not paying out insurance claims based upon the age of tires, Michelin or otherwise.
I've represented these tires as best I can, and appreciate the assistance regarding discovery of their manufacture date and location.
I offer humble apologies that my original advertisement did not include my location; however, as has been pointed out, my Samba ad, the one with pictures (everybody likes pictures,) did note that I am in Denver, Colorado, and the tires are here with me, stacked gingerly (in the industry-standard one atop another method) my garage just to the left of my workbench and in front of my deep-fryer. It should be noted that the deep-fryer (a Bayou Classic 700-701) is currently out of service for the winter, so no transfer of pontentially damaging radiant heat has occurred. Also of note is that they are stacked in proximity to my bench grinder, but I have not used the bench grinder since the tires' placement, and do not plan to until after they are gone. They will be moved to a safer location should any emergency use of my bench grinder be warranted.
While the vetting process has been thorough and at times trying, I'm satisfied that I have met all requirements of the Subcommittee regarding full disclosure of the condition, age, location, and use of the Michelin Agilis 51 205/65R15 tires in my possession to the best of my knowledge and without any nefarious intent whatsoever.
I'd like to close by saying that as a member of this venerable group for thirteen jovial years now, I now am kicking myself squarely in the ass for forgetting the one, unmistakable, cardinal rule of this particular faction of the Vanagon community:
Never bring up tires. Never, ever, ever bring up tires, even if you're just trying to unload a set because sucked in the snow, they're taking up space in the garage, and you acted both in the hope that another Vanagon owner could get some good use out of them and in the possibility that you can balance the Vanagon budget a bit after dishing out precious cash for a different set more suitable for your current needs.
Sincerely,
Joe T.
'85 Wolfsburg Westy Subie 2.2 (Brown Beige Metallic, Mftr. Date March 1985, currently running Yokohama Geolander 215/70R15, Mftr. Date August 2011.)
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Joe T. <vanagon85@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Miguel, good information there.
>
> I wrote down every little number on one of the tires last night, but
> apparently not in any real legible way.
>
> I'll need to take a closer look now that I know what I'm looking for,
> because according to my crack code-breaking skills, these tires were
> made in 1967. Something tells me that's incorrect.
>
> --
> Joe T.
> '85 Wolfsburg Westy Subie 2.2
> Denver, Colorado, USA
>
> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:28 PM, miguel pacheco
> <mundopacheco@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Here's a good link for determining tire manufacture date :
>> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=11
>>
>> Miguel
>>
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Joe T.
'85 Wolfsburg Westy Subie 2.2
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