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Date:         Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:24:34 -0500
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Preemptive water pump replacement?  Miscellaneous Chatter
Comments: To: Dake Collins <wuwe423@YAHOO.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <1330005180.31255.YahooMailNeo@web36403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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The 20w-50 is the preferred oil viscosity for most climates. It is good down to about 20F as long as you are somewhat careful to avoid revving the engine over 2,000 rpm for the first minute or two after start up. The oil pressure relief valve only has "so much" capacity to handle the excess pressure when the oil can't flow through the bearings. So of the nasty's that can happen from excess oil pressure include damaged or blown out oil filters, (86 and later the oil cooler), broken oil pump shaft (the drive tab), crank seals pushed out of the case and my favorite is having bearing hydraulically lock to the crank and spin with it. I've seen main bearings turned so hard the pin hole was lengthened by 3/8 inch. These problems are not unique to the Vanagon. When we get cold snaps here on Long Island all sorts of failures occur to many vehicles. Cam seals getting pushed out is common on many vehicles. Then the unknowing driver ignores that oil pressure warning light until the engine makes noise or stops. My point is that the proper oil for real cold weather use should not be taken lightly. Proper startup and warming procedures need to be used.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dake Collins Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:53 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Preemptive water pump replacement? Miscellaneous Chatter

Tom, I am not, by any definition, an expert on these things -  I rely on other for such things. I use 20-50 oil and it has worked for me in coastal  & downeast Maine for the 7+ years I've owned my '84 Westy. I use it because it's what was recommended to me by a friend who I consider to be knowledgeable about such things. I hope this helps & if anyone has a suggestion as to why I shouldn't use 20-50 - please let me know. Dake

________________________________ From: Dave Mcneely <mcneely4@COX.NET> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 12:20 PM Subject: Re: Preemptive water pump replacement? Miscellaneous Chatter Dake, maybe you could clue Tom in on the oil you use and why.

---- Dake Collins <wuwe423@YAHOO.COM> wrote: > Hi Tom, Welcome to Maine, I'm looking forward to having another list member in the area & closer than Houlton. I park my '84 Westy in Liberty, just outside of Belfast and home of Liberty Tool Co. (a must see in Maine). I get to Blue Hill frequently. I attend some of the campouts (just got back from Dead of Winter in Georgia) but mostly I explore on my own - if you're unfamiliar with Maine I'd be glad to show you some of the sights. Give me a shout when you get your wheels under you in Blue Hill. Welcome to Maine, Dake

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I am finally getting ready to leave Salt lake City for Blue Hill, Maine, & am wondering whether I should put the new Heppu water pump I have in my parts stash in now instead of on the road in some god forsaken place on the way?  My present water pump appears to be doing fine, but has about 87.5k on it after I had it replaced while on a road trip, 8 years ago.

I am looking forward to attending some of the East coast campouts this Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter, so hide your good looking wimin, & bring out the syncro dokas as I am interested.

YMMV,

Mr. BZ-what's a guy from Hawaii doing moving to Maine?  (Besides Mike in Houlton Maine)?  Answer:  Grandkids!

-- David McNeely


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