Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:06:28 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Mufflers re-dux (pipe strangeness)
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fwiw..
I've had a few SVX headers ceramnic coated ..
in the low $ 200's ..............and about two weeks wait.
tell you what I find extremely effective ..
particularly for the low cost and minimal effort involved...
get 'Flame Proof' high temp exhaust paint in the spray can.
the one that says 1300 to 2000 degrees F on it.
Clean the exhaust parts with a power wire brush, like on a mikita disc
grinder. Get all the loose junk off.
Paint them thoroughly with Flame Proof gray primer.
When that is nicely dry .
paint 'em with the final coat ....I like the gray ..
( there's black and red as well ) ..
I had been doing them for years without the primer..and they hold just
fine ..
keeping the pipes and muffler from rusting.
and now with a primer first ..it's like a nice thick smooth coat of very
high temp gray paint ..
This just flat 'works' very well ...
is rewarding to do ...it's easy ..
the paint is about $ 10 per can .
I even touch up pipes in place right on the van sometimes.
I just hold up a piece of cardboard behind whatever I am painting to
stop overspray from getting on the engine etc.
About vehicle repairs in general.....personally, what I find rewarding
is something that's effective.
and also doesn't cost the equivalent of 4 tanks of gas say.
I have seldom ever even bought a new aftermarket waterboxer pipe ..
I have about 4 sets to work from ..I just restore .good pipes . ..
including weld or tweaking as necessary .
I get a kick out of very effective repairs , and find that way more
rewarding than throwing cubic money at something to fix it.
I get excellent results too, not like it's a temporary patch up ...it's
not that, it's fun effective art work. Not hard or difficult at all
...it's more like play. It does help to have a few tools of course.
have fun !
scott
turbovans.com
On 2/27/2012 12:04 PM, Stephen Grisanti wrote:
> Check the Yellow Pages for Ceramic Coating or call a speed shop and see who they recommend. Or you can Google Jet-Hot Coating and see what turns up. That's a brand name but you'll find alternatives. I called the engine guy who'd just helicoiled my cylinder head and he referred me. I got a quote for about $20/foot for my system locally, but a three-week turnaround. The guy could have given a more precise quote on seeing it. I was willing to spend the money (my wife was not), but wanted to go camping as soon as I could finish since I'd already gotten the time off from work.
>
> Also, the coating guy suggested installing the new system completely to make sure everything fits properly, then remove it for coating. Lots of work, but without the coating you'd probably do the same job twice more anyway.
>
> Stephen
>
> --- On Mon, 2/27/12, Dave Mcneely<mcneely4@COX.NET> wrote:
>
>
> From: Dave Mcneely<mcneely4@COX.NET>
> Subject: Re: Mufflers re-dux (pipe strangeness)
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Date: Monday, February 27, 2012, 2:11 PM
>
>
> ---- Robert Stevens<mtbiker62@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> A suggestion: regardless of which header/muffler acquired, have everything ceramic coated.
>> If that sounds expensive, calculate the cost of replacing this system everything 5 years or so
>> (depending on which part of the country you are in) and see if the coating and resultant extended
>> life that comes with that, offsets the replacement cost.
> where do I get such a thing done, and for what price?
>
> mcneely
>
>> Disclaimer: this may not apply as much to OE/stock engine vans as much as it seems to
>> for vans with engine conversions, with which I have some experience. I've found that the
>> best (so far) exhaust system is made from mild steel then coated.
>>
>> Bob
> --
> David McNeely
>
