Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 11:28:49 -0500
Reply-To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Tranny oil cooler,(homemade kit?)
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But how do you know if it doing any good at all or is it just an added point
for failure? Remember these transmissions did fine with no external cooler
at all from 1973 until the Waterboxer.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Larry Alofs
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:00 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Tranny oil cooler,(homemade kit?)
I mounted mine above the opening at the top of the bell housing. You can
feel some breeze there from the spinning torque converter. This gives some
cooling effect even when the van is stationary.
I'm not sure how much room there is there with the standard wbx
engine/trans position. My bell housing may be a little lower in order to
keep the Subie throttle body below the engine lid.
Larry A.
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Water cooled oil coolers are used because they are extremely effective.
> Especially for transmission oil cooling. Many vehicles use a tranny
> cooler inside the radiator or some type of heat exchanger that uses the
coolant.
> What you should do is install some type of temperature monitoring
> before any changes and then see what results you get with the
> "upgrade" Luckily the Vanagon torque converter has its own cooling as
> a left over from the air cooled days. For both engine and transmission
> coolers I like to get them up front in front of the radiator. Keep in
> mind that even idling in neutral the tranny will make heat just from
> the hydraulic pump and internal spinning and rubbing parts.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of Phil Zimmerman
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:47 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Tranny oil cooler,(homemade kit?)
>
> Marc,
>
> What Larry said and .
> The banjo fittings, 12 x 1.5 mm thread, can be found on various Golf,
> Jetta and Rabbit fuel systems of the era.
>
> The GW kit is a bust. Read up on frame-rail coolers. One manufacturer
> even
> states: not intended for use on cars exposed to stop and go driving.
> Grid-lock driving heats up a TQ significantly. Little flow of air over
> the cooler under this situation.
>
> Brent Weide's web site has fine how-to install a cooler.
>
> Link: <http://www.weidefamily.net/vanagon/>
>
> Chick-on Transaxle then Transaxle R/R. Nice photo essay on the install.
>
> Pz
> on a rock off the west coast.
> -----------------
> Larry wrote in part:
>
> ...(the hardest part) got the banjo fittings by scouring pick-and-pull
> junk yards. It's been a few years, but I believe the fittings came
> from PS pumps on Mercedes or BMWs.
> good luck,
> Larry A.
> ----------------------
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 6:59 PM, marc rose <mrose1028@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Anyone ever make there own "kit" for a tranny cooler? I have a 90
>> Carat and want to get the factory tranny cooler before it gets me.
>> Don't really want to spend the money on the GW kit and was wondering
>> if anyone has dupplicated the smallcar kit. I would imagine you
>> could put your own kit together cheaper by doing the leg work
>> yourself. I am a little bit of a tight wad and don't mine the extra leg
work.
