Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:34:00 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Preemptive water pump replacement? Miscellaneous
Chatter-coolant sealer
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Perhaps we should all get after the BarsLeak company and tell them there
is no way their new Rear Main Oil Seal Additive can work.
I mean, they must be lying to us if the post below is all true.
And...of course, one of the 'principles' that leak-reducing additives
use is swelling of seal rubber, or so I would imagine.
re waterboxer head gaskets and leak-reducing additives :
it depends on what failure mode one is thinking of ..
on the common 'leaking outer rubber seal' ...
I don't recommend it ..but I have seen waterboxer engines respond to
Barsleak when the issue is bad;y leaking outer rubber seals ( which are
not 'head gaskets' really , in the conventional sense of course ) .
Near as I can tell, the Subaru additive is similar to Barsleak ..
which is actually quite a good product, when used reasonably.
I'm not into 'patching things up' very much ..
but I have seen a waterboxer with very shot outer rubber gaskets go 200
miles to a shop to get worked on ..
with a very, very generous Barsleak treatment ..and it got the job done.
Heck ..
I've had barsleak stop up a radiator ( deer collision event ) hole that
was 3/8ths of an inch wide and 5 inches long..
a seam split. Didn't run with the pressure cap tightened of course
....but it got me home just fine, and prior to the barsleak treatment I
was adding water every 6 minutes.
( The CHP officer loved that ..he pulls up behind me on the freeway
north of Sacrament as I'm putting water in ..I tell him.."I'm fine, I'm
adding water every 6 minutes and I'll be outta here in a second' ..he
says ..'uh .....uh ....how far do you have to go ? '...
Just to Marin County I said as I jumped in and took off. )
what fun.
Scott
On 2/24/2012 8:46 AM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
> Coolant sealers and stop leaks do not work on water pump seals as they are a
> moving seal, not a hole to be clogged. Also once the water pump does leak
> the coolant can work into the bearing wiping it out quickly.
>
> Also the vanagon water boxer has absolutely nothing in common with head
> gasket design so no Subaru benefit here. Most any coolant sealer will work
> on the outer gasket as long as it not beginning to tear or split open.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Mark Dearing
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:05 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Preemptive water pump replacement? Miscellaneous Chatter
>
> hey Tom I would carry a couple of the subie coolant treatments and ride
> with it, If you come across a little further south anywhere near I81 stop
> in and see us later mark dearing
>
>
> In a message dated 2/20/2012 8:06:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> tombuese@COMCAST.NET writes:
>
> I am finally getting ready to leave Salt lake City for Blue Hill, Maine,&
> am wondering whether I should put the new Heppu water pump I have in my
> parts stash in now instead of on the road in some god forsaken place on the
> way? My present water pump appears to be doing fine, but has about 87.5k on
> it after I had it replaced while on a road trip, 8 years ago.
>
> My mechanic said " don't change it as long as it isn't leaking". Does he
> just want moi to break down on the road somewhere he won't have to deal w/
> it?
>
> I put in a new Dennis Haynes recommended Mobil M1-205 oil filter( 2-3 times
> the cost of a Mann or Mahle) when I changed the oil yesterday (Royal Purple
> 15-50 synthetic), but wonder whether I should run 10-40 when I get to Maine?
> Filter felt much more heavy duty than the M& M's, but I mistakenly packed
> my stash of Mann's so I went to an Autozone,& they had the Mobil on the
> shelf.
>
> Depending on weather, I will be heading east/north on I-80 or I-70 then
> onto I-90& I-95 to Maine next week, so keep your eyes out for an Ivory 84
> Westy w/ large white dog as co-pilot. 2607 miles to new home, hope to make
> it in 5 days, not pushing too hard w/ a 4' x 8' HF trailer behind w/
> assorted junque, bicycles, tools, etc. that didn't make the moving van.
>
> Anybody enroute that needs a BZ Shelf (grey only), get free delivery!
>
> I am looking forward to attending some of the East coast campouts this
> Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter, so hide your good looking wimin,& bring out the
> syncro dokas as I am interested.
>
> YMMV,
>
> Mr. BZ-what's a guy from Hawaii doing moving to Maine? (Besides Mike in
> Houlton Maine)? Answer: Grandkids!
>
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