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Date:         Tue, 6 Mar 2012 21:16:40 -0800
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: The New Vanagon Bentley Manual is Awesome!
Comments: To: Ken Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <4F56244C.4090506@comcast.net>
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fwiw, I agree on the half turn thing. The lifers need to be pressurized or pumped up with oil to do it though.

a not pumped up lifter is a different story. scott turbovans

On 3/6/2012 6:50 AM, Ken Wilford wrote: > The book still says "two full turns" for valve adjustment for the water > boxer, but it does have the notes that Bob Donalds wanted put in about > actually running the valve adjustment loose until the lifters pump up > fully. It also says that the two full turn preload is optional. > I have found that (as Bob proposed) adjusting the valves the two full > turns causes more problems than it solves. Low compression, low > manifold pressure, valve damage. While setting the valve adjustment to > zero lash or just a half of a turn preload, and testing the engine for > compression and vacuum is the best way to go. That way you can see what > you are doing instead of blindly following what it says in a book. If > you do this you will see for yourself that valve adjustment is very > critical to the performance of the water boxer. > > Here is a typical call, "My van idles funny." I ask, "Did this start > after you had some head work done?" Customer thinks I am clairvoyant. > I tell them to adjust the valves to zero lash and see if this helps. > They email me a few days later saying the problem is gone and the van is > running better than ever. If you have a little clacking adjust it to > half a turn preload and you should be good to go. > > Just my experience. > > -- > Thanks, > Ken Wilford > John 3:16 > www.vanagain.com > Phone: 856-327-4936 > Fax: 856-327-2242 > > On 3/5/2012 8:37 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote: >> What was wrong with the valve adjustment specs? >> >> Dennis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On >> Behalf Of >> Mike South >> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 7:57 PM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Re: The New Vanagon Bentley Manual is Awesome! >> >> That is great information, but I think I speak for other >> breath-holders when >> I ask: >> >> did they fix the valve adjustment specs? >> >> :) >> >> (seriously though, I am curious to know) >> >> mike >> >> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Ken Wilford<kenwilfy@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear List, >>> >>> I have had a Bentley Manual and used it for my daily reference for the >>> past 14 years. During that time, I got used to the fact that it had a >>> crappy cover. I got used to the somewhat helpful/somewhat vague >>> instructions inside. It was the best manual for the Vanagon out there >>> in that it covered everything from AC, to diesel, to water boxer, to >>> syncro, to camper, etc. However it had it's shortcomings as well >>> (valve adjustment spec for waterboxer comes to mind). A few months >>> ago I had a guy stop here that really needed a Bentley and didn't care >>> that mine was used and written all inside (I hated to part with it >>> because of my notes but I wanted to help this guy out). So I sold it >>> to him and had to buy a new one. >>> >>> Wow, it turned out that the latest Bentley is so much better than the >>> old one, it is worth getting excited about. >>> First thing you will notice is the cover. It is now a hard back book >>> instead of a floppy, crappy paper cover. This just makes it feel like >>> it will hold up better especially for someone that references it all >>> the time. >>> >>> Second, the appendixes in the back of the book are now more than just >>> the owners manual xeroxed quickly as an after thought. They have done >>> what should have been done way back in the day. Taken all of the VW >>> dealer training literature that is out there for the Vanagon and >>> compiled it into an appendix that is about as thick as the crappy >>> Haynes manual (sorry Haynes lovers out there). So now if you want to >>> get to know the different systems in the van, how they really work >>> together, you can, in a simple and easy to understand format. If a >>> new Vanagon owner would read through this section, it would open their >>> eyes to so many things that most of us had to learn the hard way >>> through trial and error because we didn't have this reference. >>> >>> I would encourage all new Vanagon owners, do not buy a used, old >>> Bentley off of ebay or Amazon. Instead invest in a brand new, hard >>> back one that has only been out for the last year or so. It will cost >>> you a few more dollars. But the extra information you are going to >>> get is worth it's weight in gold. >>> >>> Of course we have these available on our site for sale, just thought I >>> would mention that :-) No mater where you buy it you will not be >>> sorry. >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks, >>> Ken Wilford >>> John 3:16 >>> www.vanagain.com >>> Phone: 856-327-4936 >>> Fax: 856-327-2242 >>> >


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