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Date:         Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:07:49 -0800
Reply-To:     Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Don Hanson <dhanson928@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Slight stumble on "resume throttle" (Digifant EFI van)
Comments: cc: "Vanagons and VW Buses (Bays) with VW inline gas engines"
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I just finished my winter Snowbird trip with a beautiful drive from the California low desert through the high deserts and along the east slope of the Sierras up US 395. About 1300 miles, with nice spring weather. The van ran almost perfect all winter, other than I've just began to notice a small stumble or hesitation when the throttle is re-engaged after coasting at high speeds. This is a Digifant system on an inline VW gas motor (2.0 block).

I've heard mention of a " throttle=stop switch" or a throttle position switch, not sure the correct term. I suspect this, given the symptoms I am seeing.

Other than this slight stumble or hesitation as I roll back into the throttle after a longish coasting deceleration, there are no indications of other problems. The spark plugs look just right, there is no smoke from the tailpipe after a long downhill or any other visual indication that the motor is not right. I can run it right up to about 6000rpm without any problem and the power is undiminished at any load... The fuel consumption has remained as normal....with maybe just a slight decrease in gas mileage (which could simply from the van being full of weight...4600lbs on my return trip on a ODOT highway scale, full fuel tank) Oil consumption has not changed. Oil temp and Oil pressure are the same as usual. Starts normally and idles well.

Here's what the van is doing....When I am running at speed, at normal operating temperature, and have cause to lift my foot completely, such as going down a long hill or approaching a signal....(Nevada has these cool blinking yellow "pre-signals" on their parkways that warn you when a signal is about to go to yellow and then red)....if I re-apply the throttle again before I slow all the way down, the van seems to 'catch' just for a second before it resumes strong throttle response. It's not a radical thing (yet?) just a slight hesitation as I re-apply my foot to the pedal. If I *really* take care, just feed in a tiny amount of gas before I ask for real power, I can avoid that stumble. If the period of 'drop throttle' (when I am coasting) is short....like say under a few seconds...there is no hesitation. Last night I saw my first 'backfire'....flame coming out the exhaust after a long sharp downhill at about 75mph, with a 'jolt' as the engine 'cleared' I think this indicates there is gas being run into the motor during deceleration somehow... I have also noticed some very slight 'burbling' from the exhaust as I decelerate....more so when the motor has just been started....This has always been present on startup somewhat, but if I am not imagining it, I think it has become a bit more frequent and sometimes it seems to be happening even when the motor is fully warmed up. If I coast down to a traffic signal or a stop sign and then go again after just a second of idling, waiting for the light to change, a 'stop and go', the throttle responds perfectly..the motor idles normally during the stop.

The TPS...(throttle position switch?) I see...it is flat, has a small "leaf spring" device that operates on a post as the throttle body valve is opened...When I rotate the linkage to the throttle body, that switch 'clicks' softly as I just begin opening the throttle body. Mechanically, this seems correct.... I know nothing about this device. I'm pretty lame when it comes to electrical components and the Bentley books show a few different types of switch. I don't make much sense of it. If I had to replace it, to "throw parts at it" I wouldn't even be able to identify which switch I was supposed to order, unless there is a part number concealed somewhere on the switch...

Am I on the right track here? Anyone (Digifant Guys) care to provide any input on this problem?

I'll be posting a trip report in a short while.

Don Hanson


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