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Date:         Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:37:01 -0700
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From:         Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Catalytic Converter???? Anyone go without it???
Comments: To: Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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hi, there is for example, a 2.1 waterboxer engine with 10 to 1 compression ratio and no cat that is used in markets where not cat is required.. it all boils down to how polluted a given area is .. if they don't have a smog issue .. they are generally lax about having smog laws and emissions standards.

when I moved to the Olympic Peninsula of Western Washington.. I was rather appalled...there are ZERO smog checks and NO vehicle inspections EVER... Totally 3rd world. And in a small town there ...it's 4 miles across town, the nearest freeway is over an hour away .. many people there didn't even recognize when their old car was s seriously unsafe . Most people there never drive over 45 or so ..and that's only if they go out of town. Some real junkers there. I've seen a car there with fuel leaking out of it and no one would ever care.

now if there could just be Reasonable smog checks.

On 3/18/2012 11:17 AM, Dennis Haynes wrote: > Could be a lot of differences. Carburetor instead of fuel injection, > ignition timing, Valve timing, O2 sensor, compression ratios, even gear > ratios. All these items can have an effect on emissions especially the > production of NOx. Many other countries simply allow more pollution > especially back then. > > Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > Alistair Bell > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 1:20 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Catalytic Converter???? Anyone go without it??? > > same engine was used in other countries sans cat. I wonder what the > engineering differences were? Any ideas Dave? > > alistair > > > On 2012-03-18, at 9:41 AM, Dave Mcneely wrote: > >> Marc, whether your state or local jurisdiction has an emission >> inspection requirement or not, the converter is required for legal >> operation of your vehicle. Further, the vehicle is engineered to >> operate properly with a functional converter installed. Sure, folks >> run without it. Some folks kill others for money, too. That doesn't >> make it legal or right. mcneely >> >> ---- marc rose<mrose1028@GMAIL.COM> wrote: >>> I went to change out my worn out and rusted muffler on my 90 Carat > "Rosie" >>> yesterday and noticed that the converter was all busted up and the >>> ceramic is all but gone. I live in an area that has no enforced >>> emission tests or anything like that. My question is can i can safely >>> run without the convertor. I was going to just bust out the rest of >>> the ceramic and reinstall but was not sure how it would affect the >>> overall operation of the engine. >>> >>> Any thoughts?? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Marc >> -- >> David McNeely


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