Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 12:16:16 -0700
Reply-To: Todd Last <Rubatoguy@COMCAST.NET>
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From: Todd Last <Rubatoguy@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Form Jay Leno's Garage
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Another example is the service-free upper ball joints in my Ford pickup
fitted with no grease fittings and which can't be replaced - you have to
replace the entire upper control arm.
Oddly, the replacement joints offered by Moog, have a grease fitting.
As it was explained to me once, saving 5-cents on a car seems trivial.
But when you multiply that by the cost of the entire production number
of the vehicles made, you are talking about real money.
Probably the most famous example of this is the Ford Pinto, where Ford
decided against installing an $11 repair to prevent the differential
bolts from piercing the gas tank in certain collisions.
Ever wonder why plastic pop bottles don't have full-length cap threads
and keep getting thinner?
Ever have a drink at your local fast-food place with a cup that felt
barely thick enough to hold the beverage?
Every fraction of a penny makes a difference.
Todd
On 4/5/2012 4:35 PM, Daryl Christensen wrote:
> Yeah..Service free transmissions..Love that...Please don’t ever change your gear oil and I will be a happy and wealthy camper forever..
> Same with coolant...Inexpensive is what the manufacturers credo is and they want them to last a certain time frame so you will have to replace the vehicle sooner. More $$ in their corporate pockets.
>
> Daryl of AA Transaxle
> 425-788-4070
> "On the cutting edge of Old technology"
> 86 Syncro Westy w/Turbo Zetec in the trunk
> 90 Doka Tristar w/2.5 Subie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Dave Mcneely
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 1:35 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Form Jay Leno's Garage
>
> Take your choice. I know what my choice is. I really believe if this were the way to go, manufacturers would be sending out vehicles from the factory filled with the stuff. After all, they have gone more and more "maintenance free." Most fittings no longer need lubing (long time now). Transmissions are supposed to be "service free." Yet, manufacturers keep putting in ethylene glycol based coolant and recommending change intervals. This stuff has been around for years now, no manufacturer has picked it up.
>
> Wonder why?
>
> mcneely
>
> ---- Hector Zapata<hlzapata@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> That's what I found interesting about the video, and the fact that
>> there's no pressure build up, hence the hoses last longer and the
>> heads/water pump, too. I replaced all the cooling system parts a
>> couple of years ago, almost all, if not all the plastic parts replaced
>> with stainless steel or aluminum pieces. Some people are using long
>> life coolant in their vans, so why not a "for life" one? A 5-gallon
>> bucket might cost me $200.00, contrary to thounsands to replace the
>> heads, gaskets, hoses... it kinda sorta makes sense to me. But what do
>> I know, I've had my van for almost fifteen years and driven about
>> 140,000 miles with all kinds of problems and issues, mostly due to
>> ignorance, and/or not doing a good job fixing something the first
>> time. It's been said that if it's not done right the first time for
>> being in a hurry, somehow there's always time to fix things a second
>> or third time. I think I haven't learned that lesson yet for some mysterious reason.
>>
>> Hector
>> 1990 Carat 'Ursula'
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Todd Last<Rubatoguy@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Thought I would share the response I got from Evans coolant after
>>> showing them a photo of typical Vanagon water jacket seal corrosion,
>>> and asking if using their coolant would help:
>>>
>>> ".......we have seen this type of corrosion in steel head as well as
>>> aluminum. The culprit is actually the acids that form over time due
>>> to the electrolysis. Our coolant will eliminate all the corrosion
>>> factors along with the electrolysis. Our coolant is also phosphate free."
>>>
>>> On 4/1/2012 5:43 AM, Hector Zapata wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/**extras/car-care/waterless-**
>>>> engine-coolant/index.shtml<http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras/car
>>>> -care/waterless-engine-coolant/index.shtml>
>>>>
>>>>
> --
> David McNeely
>
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